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Moving London to Devon - advice!

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TheBluePanda · 23/04/2024 20:58

Hi everyone,

My mum, dad and I (23) are looking to move from London to Devon or Cornwall, but leaning more to Devon. Would you recommend the north or south coast? We want to be near nature and the sea, but not be too disconnected from everyone. My parents will be retiring soon and would like to be able to go for great walks daily but also have the option of popping into town, looking to get a little job. We were looking at Bideford, Tiverton, near Totnes. Looking for a new build or bungalow our budget is around £400k. Any advice?

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dickdarstardlymuttley · 23/04/2024 21:08

Devon is a large county. The south is much more affluent than the north IMHO. How much research have you done?

HouseofHolbein · 23/04/2024 21:13

I live in Bideford. Moved from brum 14 years ago. Absolutely love it but it's very different to living in or near a city.

Lots of lovely walks very friendly community depending on what you are into. Can be quite isolating and limiting for job opportunities. Slightly better if you can drive and have a car.

pasinphoebe · 23/04/2024 21:26

London to Cornwall would be a huge change but Devon would be a good midway. South Devon would be my suggestion. Many lovely places around (but not in!) Exeter. Ottery St Mary etc. Woodbury Topsham. Honiton would be better value for money.
Would give you great cycling and walks. Countryside access very good, quiet countryside or busy places eg Haldon forest. Exmouth, Sidmouth, Budleigh for beaches/sea front walks plus paddle boarding. Exeter and Bristol available if wanted. Train to London still very doable for trips too. It’s a big move but a lovely one.

TheBluePanda · 24/04/2024 06:07

We're scoping so areas out this month!

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crumblingschools · 24/04/2024 06:09

What’s your plan?

LindorDoubleChoc · 24/04/2024 06:36

What job do you do? Employment prospects in the south west are very limited and low paid for young people.

I don't want to be too nosey but can you explain more about why you are planning on making this move with your parents at the age of 23?

WarningOfGails · 24/04/2024 06:39

Tiverton and Totnes are very different, culturally.

what are you looking for? And what about jobs?

Cantfindansweronline · 24/04/2024 06:41

I’m making very sweeping generalisations here but-
Exeter and nearby ie Topsham, Ottery, Woodbury etc nice but pricey (400k for a 3 bed is going to be tight)
South coast Paignton, Torquay Brixham etc some areas have a bit of a rep as chavvy and very touristy - I take it you’ll be working so need to think about traffic in the summer months.
Mid & North ( Okehampton, Bideford) lovely places to live but majority of jobs minimum wage. Public transport poor and often stops altogether at 6pm!
access to hospitals can be an issue for the elderly or infirm.
However Devon is a wonderful place to live, I certainly wouldn’t go back- been here 20 yrs (nr Bideford)
Don’t be put off by negative locals- every week someone gets ripped to shreds on fb by announcing they are thinking of relocating here and get accused of taking houses & jobs off the born and bred brigade - it’s not like that irl😂
oh and you’ll be in good company- I came from the Midlands but I reckon 80% of incomers hail from London and the surrounding areas- it’s like Chas & Dave round ere!
Good luck!

BelindaOkra · 24/04/2024 06:44

£400k will get you a lot less near Totnes than either Tiverton or Bideford.

Those are three very different places - do you know what you are looking for?

Dartmoor/Exmoor really quite different as well. (Best places for great walks) so maybe decide which you want to to be closest too.

WonderingWanda · 24/04/2024 06:55

I'd avoid Tiverton. It's in a very pretty valley but its actually quite cut off, the train station isn't in the town its 10 mins away by dual carriageway so your only public transport is buses. Its got a very rural farming community and a couple of huge council estates so actually has lots of social problems. Crediton is better in that there is train line to Exeter, houses cheaper than Exeter though.

There are lots of locations within 15 /20 mins of Exeter which have great countryside, access to the coast and the city.

Totnes is lovely but property can be quite expensive and it's a long way from major hospital for elderly people. It has quite an alternative vibe, very sustainable focus and does have some beautiful countryside.

Needanewjobsoon · 24/04/2024 07:07

We've been to Totnes a few times on holiday and it's really fab to visit. Independent coffee shops and bookshops and things.

BUT it does have a very distinct posh (and not so posh) left Learning alternative vibe. It would be fab if you fit that but I imagine quite a hard place to break in if you don't...

I my little people watching mind I imagine it's full of people who have escaped from somewhere more expensive like London and doing the alternative funky thing.

Needanewjobsoon · 24/04/2024 07:08

(obviously all observations from a visitor who quite likes the place not a local so take with whatever salt is acceptable on your current eating plan 😉)

ChicaneOvenchips · 24/04/2024 07:20

The south Devon coast has more going on and is better connected transport wise. The south hams, Torbay or teinbridge are beautiful with both county side and coastal walks easily accessible. Torbay has a bad rap and of course there are some run down areas, but also many many peaceful and beautiful areas away from that. Holiday traffic is a problem in the summer in most of Devon. Villages or towns near Newton abbot might be a good compromise if you still want to be well connected to the road network (m 5 about 10/15 mins away) and station takes you direct to London in 2.5 hours. Teignmouth and torbay near by for beach and coast, Dartmoor nearby for countryside. Villages and towns near Exeter also nice for the same reasons, but more expensive.

Hannahthepink · 24/04/2024 07:36

If you're looking for connectivity and a bit more activity, then south Devon is probably better.
We live in a particularly nice area of Torquay (NE edge), and have easy access to the rest of Torbay, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth and even Exeter if necessary.
There are stunning coastal walks, and we can be walking on Dartmoor in 20-30 mins as well.
We have young kids, and chose the area with the idea of them growing up here with enough to do that they wouldn't be totally bored, and that the options for them as they reached adulthood wouldn't be stifled.

Majentaplasticglasses · 24/04/2024 08:18

I live in the next town over from Tiverton. We're actually moving to another part of the country on Saturday. Devon is great if you're a tourist. Or if you're older. But the reality for young people is wages are lower, services are being cut by the day, and as a county, Devon lacks infrastructure.

I wouldn't move to Devon at your age if I'm honest. DH was your age when he moved down with his parents and it's been quite limiting career wise. His wage is several thousand pounds lower than his friends in cities who do the same job. And the companies he works with are a lot smaller, and are very agricultural, meaning it's been hard to get the level of experience needed for progression elsewhere.

It took him months to find a job further up north in a city, despite being good at what he does. The feedback he kept getting when he was rejected was that he's good at his job, but Devon just can't give the experience with bigger clients that he needs. He finally got a job with a bigger company in a big city, and he's being paid a few thousand more for the same position than he is down here.

Devon and Cornwall are actually known as brain drains, because a huge amounts professionals go elsewhere for better opportunities.

The cost of living is also a lot higher here in comparison to a lot of other places, despite significantly lower wages. Our petrol costs are huge because we have to drive to most places, a lot of days out can be quite expensive, especially in summer because it's catered for tourists, if you live near the coast, as DH did originally, it gets horrifically busy. If you decide to move out, you need to be aware that housing is insanely expensive, and not really good value for money unless you're in the sticks.

In terms of services. They're being cut by the day. There is a horrific pothole issue round here. People damage their cars and lose/burst tires quite often on the smaller roads (which are unavoidable from most towns), there have also been lots of near misses with car crashes because people are trying to avoid ridiculously deep holes in the road. Dependent on where you are, there can also be quite a lot of flooding when it rains. Not so much houses, but lots of roads get quite flooded, which hasn't been great this winter because it's rained so much. And it's less than ideal when there's a massive pot hole every few metres because you can't see the holes when the road floods. Devon county council pretty much refuse to make the roads useable. I say refuse but it boils down to not having the funds.

Where I am, they've just taken our 630am bus and our 8pm busses too and from Exeter, despite here being an established town and having a lot of people commute via public transport on a morning. We're lucky though as we still have busses every 20 minutes outside of that. I know people in villages with busses twice a week.

The wait list for an NHS dentist in Exeter and surrounding areas is currently sat at 10 years. It's also incredibly hard to see a GP where I am, because our one surgery covers pretty much every small village within a 5 mile radius, and lots of GPs left for better surgeries elsewhere. Hospital waiting lists are also insanely long. There's nothing wrong with any of the services once you get them. It's just hard to get them. I've been waiting to see a consultant for something here for over a year. I've ended up having my referral transferred to the city I'm moving to.

Also, I don't know if you're planning on having children one day, but please know that we have one of the lowest amounts of funding per pupil here. It's been incredibly hard to get DD10 the things she needs, because she has additional needs and the funding just isn't there for either education or basic NHS therapies. It's not great for "typical" children either. There is a reason that Devon has the highest proportion of home educated children. You may not be thinking of that yet, but it's something worth keeping in mind.

If you're adamant on moving I would personally move to south Devon. My in laws live down there and people are a lot more friendly because they have a lot of tourists visit. They are under Torbay council rather than Devon so have slightly more infrastructure. I live in mid Devon, but other than Exeter, mid Devon is quite cut off. It takes about 30 minutes to get to Exeter, and a similar amount of time to get to any of the bigger towns in any other direction. Anywhere in mid Devon that isn't Exeter involves country roads of varying size and quality.

North Devon is similar to mid Devon, except there's less there as they have no city. It's also very agricultural. Both areas can be quite hard to fit in if you live in a smaller town because a lot of places are quite insular and people won't talk to you if your face or personality doesn't fit. I'm non white and have experienced a lot of malicious racism and a lot of ignorant racism such as people calling me coloured, and referring to me as a N*, being surprised I work because "my kind usually claim benefits and send money back home" (I'm English).

It's also a whole different culture and way of life down here. That's not a negative. It's just a fact. In lots of towns everybody knows everybody, and you can sometimes find that everyone you know is connected in some way via marriage. The pace is a lot slower and people are very chilled here. The myth about hating city people and Londoners is exactly that. A myth. If people hate you it's usually because they don't like any outsiders, or you've offended them by saying wherever you're from is better, or trying to force change that isn't wanted.

It probably sounds like I hate Devon. I don't. It's a beautiful county, and part of me is sad to leave. But there is next to no infrastructure. It isn't the idyllic, perfect world tourists think it is. Life is tougher, it's more expensive. Housing is unaffordable. Exeter has a huge drugs and homelessness problem. The same applies for Barnstaple, Torquay, Plymouth and any other big towns and cities. Younger people leave daily because there is nothing here for us.

DHs parents are here and they're thriving. But they are older and more established than us, and can afford to live here.

I just want to give the other side of what it's like to live down here as a younger adult because it isn't all rainbows and butterflies .

mitogoshi · 24/04/2024 08:37

For connection I'd look at east Devon as easier to get back to the rest of the country. Unless you have megabucks budget, you money goes further in the towns especially inland areas few miles.

DPotter · 24/04/2024 08:51

I grew up on the Kent coast in a small town very popular with tourists from London. We had a large number of retired people move out from London and those on our road were shocked at the change in the place from Summer into Winter. Like others have said, all services were reduced in comparison to those available in the capital. My strong suggestion would be to 'scope out' a place in February rather than May / June. You'll get a much truer picture of what places are like. At least my former neighbours would visit annually for years in the Summer and thought they knew what they were getting themselves into. It is such a culture shock - one bus an hour (when they remember to run), some shops and amenities open only in the Summer season. Oh and the weather - OK the UK doesn't have the best weather but generally the south is seen as warmer. In my part pf Kent - the weather whistles in form Norway, with strong cold winds in the Winter and a higher snow fall than you would imagine.

Retiring to the coast / or a more rural setting isn't the automatic ideal and once you're here, it's difficult to move back -so don't rush. Holiday in Devon in the Summer and Winter before pulling up your roots

TheBluePanda · 24/04/2024 10:02

Thanks everyone! This move is more for my parents, I will eventually fly the nest but living with my parents for the time being. They're looking forward to slowing down and I'm hoping to get a remote job, so not too fussed about work. From everyone's comments it seems like the south of Devon will be best for us with more facilities compared to the north. We've lived in London for most of our lives, so looking forward to a change in pace and atmosphere. We don't mind driving about.

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DPotter · 24/04/2024 19:23

Be sure to check the broadband quality when you visit. I'm 5 miles outside Reading and the Thames Valley silicon valley companies and ours dips to as low as 2 bits downloading at regular and annoying intervals

BrickTiger · 24/04/2024 21:03

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