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Marina · 27/03/2001 08:37

Paging Tigger. We haven't heard from you for a while. How are things? Are you over your monster cold?

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Tigger · 27/03/2001 10:15

Thank you Marina, it is nice to be missed!, my cold is getting better. We've been really busy lately and I haven't been able to keep up with what is going on. Managed to escape on sunday, we went to Blondes in Edinburgh for my aunt and uncles Silver Wedding, we had a great day and finding the place was very easy as well, it is near the Royal Commonwealth Pool and we didn't try to kill each other on the journey. The kids stayed with my friend and her husband and they looked after children, sheep, cows etc for the day. Have to go now as BCMS have rapped my knuckles for not telling them we have a bull and a heifer away at wintering at our friends dairy farm. Will catch up soon.

Mary

Tigermoth · 28/03/2001 09:01

Pamina, how are you? Hope all is well....

Tigger, your Sunday escapade sounded lovely.I havn't been to Edinburgh since I was a student. Must go again soon.

Pamina · 03/04/2001 10:51

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Tigger · 09/04/2001 11:20

Just a short note to let you all know that the dreaded F & M has arrived in our area, in fact only 20 miles away. We know the farmer very well and my SIL is near to it as well as are many of our friends. They had a cow unwell on friday and got the vet on saturday morning, who got MAFF in and it was confirmed yesterday morning, by lunchtime yesterday, in about 4 hours 20 cattle and a bull had gone down. As to how it got here nobody is very sure, could have been the Milk Tanker that lifts the milk, not sure at all. Our area is now classed as an infected area, so any hope of getting some of our sheep and cattle to grass has gone straight out the window. There will be a lot of Pedigree sheep go down in the infected area zone, a lot of Suffolks and Texels, all very good sheep and worth a lot of money, even the breeding lines are years old. Spoken to some of our friends in that area and they are completely devastated, understandable. I'll keep you all informed if it moves any closer, keeping everything crossed that it doesn't.

Tigermoth · 09/04/2001 11:27

Tigger very sorry to hear this. Listened to the radio news, driving in on my way to work this morning, and heard that a worrying case of F&M in Scotland had just been discovered in a hitherto non-infected area. Wondered if this was near you. What happens to your sheep and cattle if they can't go out to grass? Don't bother to reply to this if you are busy......

Batters · 09/04/2001 13:24

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Tigger · 09/04/2001 13:32

Tigermoth, Wigtownshire is the area we are in and the case is at a small village called Sorbie. I don't know what'll happen to my ewes and lambs and my cattle. They may end up going into the Welfare Scheme, as we simply don't have enough fields or shed space to keep them all at home just now, if this was nearer the end of May, we would have grass and it wouldn't be a problem. We have just heard about another case that is just 8 miles away from us, another dairy. Oh lord, what can we do, our hands are tied, it is a horrible waiting game. It could be the case of here today, gone tomorrow.

Lil · 09/04/2001 14:44

Tigger what a nightmare. If I were in your position I think I'd just want to go inside and shut the front door and scream!

A bloody good excuse for an early G&T and fag I should think!

Eulalia · 10/04/2001 12:02

Tigger - my thoughts are with you. Please keep us posted. Am finding the news so depressing just now I can bearly watch it.

How are you otherwise? We are just getting packed up to move house in about a month and so are due to become country folk ourselves very soon. There are sheep and lambs in the field next to our house. Fortunately there is no F&M in Kincardineshire.

Spring · 10/04/2001 14:31

Tigger, hope the F&M doesn't get to you and yours. I think it's disgraceful, not enough is being done to stop this. Personally I won't be visiting any country parks over the Easter break as I normally would. I think too much emphasis is being put on the Tourist trade missing out rather than helping the farmers and putting an end to this, I'm sure they could have stopped it weeks ago if they had taken the correct action.

Tigger · 10/04/2001 15:46

Our good friend and his wife will lose their cows this week as they have had a confirmed case of F & M in the farm next to them. And more of our friends will lose their sheep and in some cases their cows as well. I am now at the point where I cannot sleep at all, the latest case is only 3 miles from my SIL and her family on their farm, they will lose their sheep as well, and I hope their cows do not go as well. I think that it will spread like wildfire throughout our area leaving nothing in it's path, maybe not even us. Our sheep and bulls are going on saturday to the welfare scheme, poor buggers, I cannot bring myself to even really think about it, there will be many tears shed on saturday morning at around 6.30am when they go away. How do I explain to my eldest that they have to go, I have done this and it has been one of the hardest things I have ever done, at least when I told her about her granny's death there was a reason, for this there is none, only that mummy and daddy cannot keep the sheep etc as we have no grass or shed space for them. Some may think that I am soft at 31 crying over a few sheep and cattle, that is the way I am, and I think you all know me well enough now, to realise that my bark is worse than my bite!. According to my mum, I give the impression of being very "tough" on the outside, but, as she says looking and being are 2 different things. Hold on hanky needed, right thats me, nose sorted and glasses back on. Ok then this softie is away for a cup of coffee.

Lil, I did what you said last night and had a bloody big gin and many fags, probably do the same again tonight!.

Tigermoth · 10/04/2001 16:45

Tigger, what can I say. So sorry. It's such a mad, nighmare situation to find yourself in. Who would have thought F + M could reappear on this scale a year ago? You sound very brave.

Make that a triple gin.

Star · 10/04/2001 19:46

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Croppy · 11/04/2001 08:29

I'm a bit sceptical of some of Frank Furedi's answers. A look at the horrendous road fatality statistics for Spain and Greece compared to Britain's performance at the top of the EU suggests deep cultural differences over the issues of risk and safety which go well beyond the care of children. I'd be very interested to see the relative figures for child road deaths in those three countries.

Bugsy · 11/04/2001 09:06

Tigger, so sorry to hear your sad news. I can't imagine how distressing it will be for you all. I keep thinking there must be light at the end of this agricultural disaster - but I've yet to see it so far.

Debsb · 11/04/2001 09:22

Tigger, thinking of you & hope you all come through this ok

Sml · 11/04/2001 10:45

Croppy, that's my main objection as well! in fact I was going to ask the same question that you did.

Tigger, you're not soft, it's very depressing and I can't help thinking a lot of all the farmers losing their breeding lines as well as special animals, and all the cafe owners, shopkeepers, B+B owners, pub landlords etc etc who aren't even getting any compensation. Surely the people at the top of the agriculture industry could have enforced precautionary measures BEFORE this happened rather than after the inevitable next outbreak of F+M! that's what they're paid for after all.

Tigger · 11/04/2001 11:28

Sml, you have raised a very good point that has been the main topic of conversation between the farming community SNFU, NFU and many Scottish Executive Rural Affairs Ministers. At the outbreak of this disease many questions were raised, and your point was not long in coming out. There are many, many questions to be asked and answered, have to go got a cow calving and husband is rolling a field, so it is up to me to monitor the impending birth!

Ailsa · 15/04/2001 19:01

Don't you think that the early evening news programmes are showing too many distressing pictures of cows/sheep being culled. Because of these pictures my 6½ year old daughter has decided that she no longer wants to eat meat, her reason being that someone had to kill the animal in order for it to become food on our plates.

Jbr · 15/04/2001 19:28

Surely the animals are only being put down because they aren't economically viable? I am sure animals don't die from it and recover very quickly.

I am not surprised it is putting some people off eating meat. Sorry to sound harsh but where do people think the meat came from in the first place? I know some people who are being put off eating meat because they see pictures of lambs running around on the tele, and I just keep saying well, it's always been like that, why have a conscience now?

Midge · 15/04/2001 22:01

Read a letter in our local paper last week from a woman complaining that as certain local footpaths had been closed due to F & M she is now "forced" to walk her dogs in the fields alongside the paths - "some of them containing animals". Doh. We are in a fairly badly affected area, it's not like their wasn't much publicity.
Sometimes peoples grasp (or rather, lack of grasp)of simple facts leaves me amazed.

Tigger · 16/04/2001 07:43

I am sorry that the pictures portrayed on the TV and in the press have distressed some people, but, many people don't know what acutally happens. We have seen in our area since last sunday 11 of our farming friends lost all of their stock and more have lost their sheep because of the 3km zone due to F & M, and their family in other farms being very upset and crying. What Midge says is true, but what we have found in our area is that many people are very understanding and want rid of this terrible disease. My SIL is not far away from the outbreaks in Wigtownshire, and we are only 10 miles away from her, and she says it is like living on death row, we are also very worried about our own stock, as this disease jumped over 30 miles last week.

JosephMooryes · 28/09/2018 15:49

My SIL is not far away from the outbreaks in Wigtownshire, and we are only 10 miles away from her, and she says it is like living on death row, we are also very worried about our own stock, as this disease jumped over 30 miles last week.
Hey, I agree of you I had same problems when I worked at mummys gold . It was great time in my life but now I have bad experience

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