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Deedumm · 16/09/2022 22:24

My question is about the actions of an old friend, I've known since late teens. Her and husband have been in my life for 35 years. Before I say what, she did which has caused further problems with myself and my children, I need to explain a complicated situation. Sorry for how complex it is!

After re -marrying 6 years ago I've found myself in a difficult situation. My mum didn't like my husband, she'd decided that before she met him. The girls liked him until we got married and lived together. I split with their father 15 years ago and the relationship between him and my children was not good into their teens, I encouraged them to see him as I thought it was the right thing to do. My own relationship with my mother I would describe as difficult. Both my parents dote on their grandchildren and supported them a lot, they didn't like their father.

Anyway 2 years ago we had a house fire in the night which resulted in us having to live with our respective parents. During the 3 months I was living at my parents with my teenagers (they have 5 bedrooms so not cramped) my Mum stopped talking to me, saying I hadn't put the children first by being with my husband. Before the fire the atmosphere in my own home had become strained between my children, my husband and myself. My eldest daughter, went to University. The youngest hit puberty, went from confident, to anxious, to self -harming, she also missed her sister. The eldest, with whom I clashed, came home quit after 1 year at university. She moved to a degree nearer home. I gave her lots of freedom; she had her boyfriend and friends over all the time. I lost my job which caused me to suffer from a bout of major depression. My eldest seemed angry at me...I got help via Camhs for my younger daughter. Then we had a bad house fire. After the house was made safe, my husband and I had to clean and re-decorate everything, every item either thrown away or washed/cleaned. It was a v difficult time (I forgot to pay the insurance) My mother would not let me wash my clothes at her home! Luckily, some kind people washed all mine and my children's clothes, bedding curtains etc. for me.

The girls decided not to move back home, got a rent by themselves because of dislike of my husband. My mother just cut me off, dis-inherited me (She has done this to my brother, no reason for this) I was in despair about the girls, so I suggested that my husband and I live apart and I try to mend the relationship with my children. We brought separate homes but when Covid hit in 2020, I temporarily lived with my husband, he supported me in many ways, our relationship grew. In 2021, the girls decided to cut me off altogether saying it was because I still see my husband. I currently text them to say I love them every week, buy presents and send them regular money. They are being supported by my parents. Early summer 2023, I visited my kids house to knock and leave straberries, for the first time in 18 months my youngest child came out and started crying and hugged me, she wanted to know if I was living apart from my husband. I was hopeful from that encounter.

Back to my friend. She knows the situation with my children and how much it hurts me. In the summer of 2023, my husband and I decided to go on holiday together, we no longer live together. I asked my friend to feed the cat on the first day only, as the next-door neighbor was doing the rest of the week. I did not inform my parents or children. During that week, during the heatwave, my long- term friend texted my youngest child and asked them when I was coming back from my holiday because she was worried about the cat.

It is not my friends fault my children don't speak to me but I can't see why she texted my children about the cat, letting them know I was on holiday, unless to cause trouble. On my return from holiday, she didn't tell me she'd contacted the girls. A week later I called my Dad, who will speak to me when he is allowed, he told me that my friend had texted the children and they knew I was on holiday with my husband. So any hope for re-starting a relationship with my youngest gone for now!

I had a conversation with my friend asked why she had texted them, she said she'd texted me too but due to problems with my phone I didn't have it on. After the conversation she texted me to tell me to enjoy my life. I did text her to say that I'd give her the benefit and that she was just worried about the cat. Since she has blanked me, maybe I got it wrong. My daughters don't drive they couldn't help the cat and the neighbor was there anyway. AIBU??

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HikingforScenery · 16/09/2022 22:32

Did your friend know your didn’t want the children to know you’d gone away with your husband? If she did, then yanbu. If she didn’t, yabu

Sounds like something sinister is going on for the children to hate your husband this much?!

It all sounds very complicated. Having to live separately and lie to your children about going on holiday with your pen husband?

Threelittlelambs · 16/09/2022 22:38

You appear to be making a web of lies and it’s never a good foundation for loving relationships.

My guess is he is abusive. Only you refuse to leave him and be with your children?
I’ve heard this story many times.

Your friend is the least of your worries.

MrsMoastyToasty · 16/09/2022 22:43

Your parents don't like your husband.
Your children don't like your husband.
Your friend is the innocent party.

The common denominator is your husband. Why do so many people hate him???

Mrsbclinton · 16/09/2022 22:47

How did you go on holiday in 2023 when its a year away…………

Lisad1231981 · 16/09/2022 22:51

Friend is least of your worries. I would never choose a husband over my children. You don't live with your children or your husband. It all seems a little odd.

Deedumm · 16/09/2022 22:52

yes 2022 you are right

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sorcerersapprentice · 16/09/2022 22:52

So much drama. I couldn't live my life like that. Sounds like you've stirred up a hornets nest amongst the people you know. Not an easy thing to backtrack from

Wombat100 · 16/09/2022 23:06

Why do your mum and your kids hate four husband so much? How old are the kids?

Wombat100 · 16/09/2022 23:06

*your husband

Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:14

I lived with them all until 2019 and the fire, it is odd. I think some truth to him being awkward, it might have even been abusive, but I was very depressed and mentally ill, they didn't llike the way he spoke to me. I was very difficult to live with and I let the girls down. I am paying for that now as they may never want to have any relationship. I asked for medical help for some time but I only got it after many months and a crisis team that was after the fire. My husband pushed for me to get the help.

My husband and I argued a lot so that is a form of trauma for the children and not good. It isn't always easy to react immediately, to give up your property with a part time job, the girls could have gone to my parents but they wouldn't want to live with my mum she is unpredictable and controlling. Since the fire, my husband has been the only one there for me. As for putting the children first, I have sold the house, mostly my equity and given him his share. My husband now lives 20 miles away. My mother doesn't like anyone, she has fallen out with her own sister for 20 years and my brother.

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Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:19

The children were 13 and 17 when I met my husband his daughter 8. They are 18 and 22 now. My eldest at 20 said they wouldn't come home and would take the youngest with her, awful and obviiously must have been bad for them- never thought this would happen. When people say i wouldn't live like that - not always easy to change everything immediately, it also has to be seen as my fault.

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Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:22

It wasn't said but the children don't have anything to do with me so asking about the cat was pointless - she knew that and knows that they don't like him and I felt it was done carelessly at best.

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Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:32

yes, you are right..he wasn't great but tbh my eldest wasn't always nice to me. They regularly told me to F off, I'm talking about children brought up to well, they had nice things, hobbies and holidays. There father did a few things around this time including leaving a step Mum and siblings my children liked and taking his new gf to see my eldest in a major lead stage show without telling her this! My eldest is fiesty and both are very PC with strong opinions.

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GobbolinoTheWitchesCat · 16/09/2022 23:33

Why do your children hate your husband so much that they won't live with him?

Although I understand why you are so upset and have enormoussympathy for the emotional stress you're under, I think its unfair to blame your friend in the way that you have. She's been a great friend for so long, I wouldn't throw your friendship away easily. This sounds like a genuine mistake on your friends part.

I have to wonder as well what you said to her on the phone for her to send you a message implying the end of your friendship? You write in a straightforward and reasonable manner so I can't be the only one wondering how much you've not said...You've been through hell the last few years - perhaps even longer - how has the strain affected you? Do you think it's made you harder?

It seems to be that you need good friendships and support in your life so I think perhaps the onus is on your right now to apologise and make up with your friend.

Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:44

I said that I couldn't understand why she contacted my daughter and that we'd been friends for many years but not to contact them anymore. She then said she'd go and see my mother, she knows my mother so i said good luck with that but I also said I'd take it that she was acting out of the cat's best interest. I have often felt she enjoys my misfortune - she was not there after the fire, she has admitted she wasn't good when we had the fire and when I had depression.

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Deedumm · 16/09/2022 23:47

I have to add that this friend always said that I'd be at her wedding, she'd lived with her partner for many years when it came to it, she told me she was getting married I was so excited until she told me it was only having family, I cried as it really upset me a few weeks later she changed her mind and invited me with a few other friends!

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Threelittlelambs · 17/09/2022 07:22

I’m not sure what your are looking for here.
Throwing the wedding into the mix isn’t going to get people to side with you.

There’s something fundamentally wrong here.

Yoir daughters appear to be ‘opinionated’ which is usually a defense mechanism to prevent hurt - why is this?

I would suggest you need some counseling and be honest with your answers. Most people don’t live like this and avoid frame you seem to attract it.

SeasonFinale · 17/09/2022 07:37

Was the friend's wedding in lockdown? Even if it wasn't you can't expect tk be invited to a family only one.

As regards the rest if your family have not had anything to do with you for such a long time then why have you and your husband split up?

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