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I thought we'd sorted everything and now I find I was wrong and I really need to winge...

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 17:29

OK here goes!
My DP and I live in social housing, in a one bed maisonette to be a bit more precise!
We are expecting our first child on the 8th of february and I'm pulling my hair out!
We put in for a transfer to a two bedroomed property MONTHS ago. And we're still waiting for approval. Once we get approved all we'll be given is a code number to use to 'bid' (not a real bid like an auction, just a flag that you wish to live in that property) on available properties. First major problem with that is that two bedroomed properties in social housing that are available for transfer are few and far between and in very high demand. The second major problem with this is that once you've bid on a property, the powers that be then look at the priority status of all the people who have made a bid on that property and the first one with the highest priority gets the house. This process could take YEARS.

So as we have the prospect of trying to squeeze our new little life into our rabbit hutch for the forseeable future we have to try and make some room.

DP is a musician. so we have guitars and speakers and amps and god knows what else that takes up some of the space

I have completed one year of uni and intend to return after the child is born. I'm studying Textiles so I have 3 sewing machines, boxes of fabric, yarn, sewing threads, reams of paper, some of which is very large, portfolios of work done so far
pens, paints.............stacks of arty farty stuff that cost a fortune to buy and is important for the course

We've thrown out over two car loads of stuff we had around that we had thought meant stuff to us like books and clothes and sentimental gifts and one of two wardrobes and there isn't much more we can get rid of.

So we thought if we just turn the bed around and squash everything up a bit we'll be able to get a cot bed in the bedroom with us. We thought a cotbed would be the best idea as we don't have a lot of money and can't keep buying several different things for the child to sleep on as s/he gets older and we might as well find room for that as we have no idea how long we're going to be waiting for a bigger place.

We were dead wrong

I've just finished measuring up the bed room. turning the bed round and squashing things up makes 10cms difference to the space available and it's just not enough!

I don't know what we're going to do. we'll be ok for maybe three months cause we can just about fit a moses basket in there but after that where's my baby going to sleep?

So I seem to have no choice left! I've got to get rid of all my stuff for uni to make enough room down stairs to store the baby's clothes and mine and my partners clothes (which I will have to Kull AGAIN) throw out our chest of drawers and squeeze the baby in behind the bedroom door.

I've no idea how I'm going to be able to go back to uni to give myself a better chance of getting a decent job so that I can provide for my child and get out of this shithole so I guess we're all going to have to slum it together.

The government can go and shove it if they're going to give me any crap about retraining etc because that's what I was doing before the shit hit the fan.

And before any of you say what my mother said... My partner and I didn't use any protection because I was informed that with the state of my PCOS I was classed as infertile and DP's swimmers prefer to sit and watch the world go by IYKWIM. It was after being told that children for us was a damned pipe dream that I decided to go to uni and focus on my career instead.

We're over the moon that we became pg. We're thrilled to bits that the doctors were all wrong. This child is deeply deeply wanted and loved.

I'm just besides myself with guilt for giving her life when we aren't in any position to even give her a little space let alone provide for her.

DP works but it's not like that money goes very far and the tax credit we get are just pathetic. Where does the government draw it's figures from to make decisions on how much people need to live off?

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:21

Twig - I think it's beautiful stuff because it's got character and has had 'another life' but none of it's worth much at all, I'm afraid. Maybe £100 for the lot and that wouldn't get us very far

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:23

yeah I'm on freecycle, we've picked up a lot from there and it's been very useful for getting rid of some of the heavier stuff too as folk will come and take it from you. Has been very useful

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claraenglish · 10/01/2008 18:24

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:25

I am a very deep sleeper though, I've slept directly infront of a speaker at a heavy metal concert, I can sleep through anything! Does that change once you have a baby?

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KashaSarrasin · 10/01/2008 18:26

We were in a similar situation and were in a one bed flat until DS was 18 months. We didn't think we'd be able to do it but in the end it was OK - we had just enough room in the bedroom for a small cot pushed up next to our bed. It meant we couldn't open the door fully and it was a bit tricky to get in and out of bed, but it just about worked!

We ended up cosleeping, we kept the cot but took the side adjacent to the bed off. We're lucky enough to be in a house now and DS has his own room. It is good to have more space, but it is possible (if less than ideal) to cope in a 1 bed flat with a baby, honestly!

Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:27

I am super woman thank you very much Na you did just make me smile though, thanks for that!

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mrsruffallo · 10/01/2008 18:29

PK, i didn't co sleep with my dc1 until she was 6 months for exactly the same reason. It's perfectly understandable to be nervous- they are so small and helpless! Saying that dc2 has co slept with us since birth and everything was ok.
The point is, you won't get a good nights sleep if you're nervous.
So maybe the Moses basket for the first 6 months then the bed with you?

MarkStretch · 10/01/2008 18:29

The council I work with (I'm a Tenancy Support Worker) won't count the baby as an 'extra' person until 6 months but when you get to that stage make sure you ask the council to look again at your situation as you should get more for overcrowding.

Also make sure any rent arrears you may have are cleared as this will put you in a better position.

Once your baby is born as your HV to write a letter to your housing provider explaining the problems you are having with a lack of space and how this may impact on the baby's developmental delay once he/she starts crawling/walking and requires own bed.

It might be worthwhile seeing if there is any tenancy support available in your area. This is the kind of stuff I do everyday and I have got several young families moved to bigger properties.

Hope that helps.

Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:34

ok so I've smiled
Things are definately looking up!
Thank you ladies! You have been great. Honestly.
A smile is a great start now all I need to do is formulate an action plan as only superwoman can do and fix this mess.
There has to be a way, some of you have done it so it's been done before!
So not throw ALL of my uni stuff out but I can definately re-examine my stocks and see what's extra to requirements.
I can give my clothes another kulling, I(f I can get through most of my pregnancy and not miss the stuff I couldn't get into, most of that can probably go anyway.
I guess there might be other stuff I can go through too so It's not all doom and gloom.
I did need you ladies though, I was in a bit of a miserable fog and could have been stuck deep in it for days!

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:39

Mark - I hadn't even thought of the HV and tenancy support, I'd forgotten they existed tbh. Thanks

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Pk616 · 10/01/2008 18:41

OOh I can take the doors off the wardrobe, that adds a bit of room!

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Squiffy · 11/01/2008 14:25

My brother had same problem - got divorced and now lives in flat with just one small bedroom and small living room and a business to run - his 4 children aged 4-11 come to stay overnight every weekend!

His wardrobe is in the front of half the window in the living room because it is a bay window and fits best there rather than in the bedroom, and he has maximised all the space by putting up large boxed shelving - much wider than normal shelves - from IKEA right the way up to the ceiling on all possible walls (on some walls is runs from floor to ceiling), which means he doesn't need cupboards and drawers and he has lots of clothing hanging on coathooks that run down the stairs, and he has some stuff suspended from the ceiling, and a sofabed in the living room. It's not pretty but it works.

Pk616 · 11/01/2008 14:33

Squiffy - It can be mad living in a rabbit hutch can't it! I'm much much more able to cope today and have a level head on. Hats off to your brother though, sounds like he's got it figured out! think you could send him round here to help us with the logistics here!!!!
I've spoken to my mom and she thinks she can squeeze a few more boxes of my stuff in her loft so I'm going through EVERYTHING to see what I don't need right away.
Looking forward to an even more productive afternoon!

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ShrinkingViolet · 11/01/2008 14:44

can you put shelves up above doorways (inside and outside rooms)? Baby clothes fit in baskets/boxes under the cot (if you decide not to co-sleep) so no need to take away from your own clothes storage. Cover boxes in offcuts of fabric so they look prettier when visible in your public rooms. Kitchen cupboards don't need to store just kitchen stuff. If you google apartment living, there are loads of American websites which show how some people have managed to fit into very small flats; similarly the roomsets in IKEA are useful for that.

Ubergeekian · 11/01/2008 23:37

We've co-slept since about 3 months: he was a bit squashable-looking before that and slept in a crib. It's great fun, dead easy for breast feeding and nothing, absolutely nothing, compares with a small soft voice saying "Boo" in the darkness at 7.30am and then laughing very quietly. This morning, that was, and I'm still feeling gooey!

If your ceiling is high enough, what about a loft bed? We had an Ikea one for years when we lived in a titchy flat (pre-sprog) and it was great.

Pk616 · 12/01/2008 10:18

Ubergeekian - We thought about one of those loft bed things but we measured up and we wouldn't be able to sit up in bed. Damned modern builds!!

I'm still very much considering co-sleeping, my DP is very unsure about it though. WE'll just have to see what happens when the baby is actually here. 4 weeks to go, woohoo!!!

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Ubergeekian · 14/01/2008 18:31

Pk616: "We thought about one of those loft bed things but we measured up and we wouldn't be able to sit up in bed."

Cut the legs off. Seriously - we have friends who slice a foot or so off an IKEA loft bed to give their daughter headroom. Still lots of space for a desk underneath.

Ours was in an Edinburgh flat with 12' ceilings, so no problem ...

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