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Help needed from those of you interested in languages and words please.........

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BettySpaghetti · 11/12/2007 20:19

I'm trying to find a book for a Christmas present for my MIL.

I'll head off to Waterstones tomorrow and ask there but I'm hoping someone here may have a recommendation or suggestion.

MIL is fluent in 5 European languages and is interested in language in general. What I would like for her is a book that looks at how words evolve across languages, looks at the similarities of words in different languages IYSWIM.

All I can find from a quick search on Amazon are books looking at the origins of English words but this isn't "international" enough -she is interested in how languages overlap.

Not sure if I've explained myself well enough??

Thanks

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Indith · 11/12/2007 21:55

Lol Tinker I almost put Pinker's Language Instinct there but thought it might be a bit too theoretical!

BettySpaghetti · 11/12/2007 21:56

The last link (David Crystal one) is probably pitched at the right level in that its interesting, covers fascinating areas of language and is not overly academic. I can imagine her picking that up and enjoying.

Some of the others might be a bit "heavy" for someone who is not studying language formally??

There are a few from your links though that I will have a look for in the bookshop and a browse through will tell me more -its always difficult getting an idea from Amazon listings and reviews isn't it?

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Tinker · 11/12/2007 21:57

He does really but still interesting? (Says she who has a book of his on her shelf which she has only really skim-read ) But I did do an OU course on language with a bit of linguistics in. Honest Miss.

Indith · 11/12/2007 22:01

He is really interesting but I think if Betty were to go for something that was more to do with the development of language then the resilience of language one I linked to before would be better as it is easier to follow. Pinker is fab but a little academic if not actively studying.

Says the girl who is having an illicit affair with Vygotsky

Indith · 11/12/2007 22:03

this then looks far more gentle and good fun to read.

Indith · 11/12/2007 22:13

And now I seem to have gone over my essay word limit so am signing off and going to bed.

Good luck with the book buying Betty

BettySpaghetti · 11/12/2007 22:19

Thanks so much for your help Indith -hope you haven't been too distracted from your essay.

BTW The Unfolding of Language might be the one! Going to read the reviews etc now

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OhGiveUsAPruniPudding · 11/12/2007 22:21

That Umberto Eco One (THe Search for the Perfect Language) is fascinating but iirc is about attempts to define exactly what language is, philosphically-speaking, and then make the perfect one that would express all ideas. It is really good.
Also good is "Spoken Here" by Mark someone, about dying languages - not exactly what you want but interesting to anyone keen on linguistics and society.
I have a couple of years of linguistics under my belt, and a degree in Eng Lang, and I love this book, although it is flawed in places (his use of the IPA is a bit slapdash imo)
\Compendium of the World's Languages.
Entry for each language, some phonological and grammatical detail, and a bit of Genesis reproduced in the relevant script with notes as necessary. Not a 'readable' book but I found it gripping (I am a bit like that though).

Indith · 11/12/2007 22:28

A good distraction I assure you!

MrsSchadenfreude · 11/12/2007 22:43

I have snogged David Crystal's son in my wild and mis-spent youth.

I want all of these books...

QuintessentialShadowOfSnowball · 11/12/2007 23:03

This thread is fab. I am ordering The Unfolding of Language for my sister for Christmas. I am inspired.

Maybe some of you linguists wants to contribute some thoughts about the finnish language on a fashion thread by COD? It just sort of developed into something different than clothing...

MrsSchadenfreude · 11/12/2007 23:31

God, I don't know any Finnish at all. I was given a page of Estonian the other day by my boss to "see if I could work out what it was about." I had no clue. Think Estonian is v similar to Finnish?

Indith · 12/12/2007 09:55

Finnish!

15 cases!

No thanks

Russian is bad enough.

Morning!

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