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i can't believe someone would want to see it.........

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totallysickened · 11/10/2004 11:09

My neighbour who I trusted asked to borrow my computer the other day. I was going out so left him there. I have just been looking through my history on my computer and saw a site I didn't recognise. I clicked on it and was totally totally disgusted. It was the video of poor Ken Bigley being beheaded. I can't believe someone would WANT to see something like this.....I don't know what to say to my neighbour....I don't know what to do now....what to say to him. Obviously I am NEVER going to let him borrow my computer again. I am sure his wife would be totally disgusted. She is very religious, and has been very upset by what has happened to this poor poor man......what do I do now? I am totally distraught.....

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MrsDoolittle · 11/10/2004 11:12

Oh that's awful. I can't understand anyone wanting to see that either. I would also find it very difficult not to let him know how I felt.
What are you going to do? I really feel for you

Easy · 11/10/2004 11:14

Dont say anything.
Yes it is sickening, not something we might want to see, but it's his life. I wouldn't tell his wife either, why upset her over this? At the end of the day, what he has done isn't illegal, or even immoral (by some peoples standards).

Certainly you don't have to let him use your computer again, and I can understand you are upset.

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totallysickened · 11/10/2004 11:14

i really don't know what to do......as soon as I realised what it was I shut it down and deleted it all. Its really really upset me.......

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Amfs · 11/10/2004 11:14

But you don't know he watched it do you?

He could've been looking for news on Ken Bigley and it came up in a search engine and he clicked on it, as soon as he saw it he could have clicked off

Yes, its foul that its online .. but don't jump to conclusions

In a way its bizarre that you would check your history .. you were obviously intrigued to see what he was doing weren't you? Human nature I'm afraid

I was looking for pictures of camelias yesterday (thinking of planting some in front garden) and some Ku Klux Klan order of white camelias was the first up on google search .. I must admit I was tempted to have a look just to see what crap they are spouting, but I didn't .. but the temptation was there .. don't think it particularly makes me sick

Marina · 11/10/2004 11:18

Erk, I hate it when something like that happens Amfs (and it's a great example for me to use in my information skills seminars at work "Why Google is not the only answer", thanks for that!)
totallysickened, as others have said, you don't know that he actually watched the video, it could have been an ill-advised click.
Clear your history on the computer so you don't have to see the link again, don't let him use your PC again, and try not to let it upset you any more. Agree it's an upsetting thing to have encountered.

whimsy · 11/10/2004 11:20

I would say something next time I saw him
Why would ANYONE want to look at such an horrific thing Your children could of seen it, the whole Ken Bigley thing is so upsetting and sad. I would have to say something, at the end of the day you trusted him enough to leave him in your home.

MrsDoolittle · 11/10/2004 11:22

Hi Marina, Another one here struggling with the "Google is not the answer" speech. My studenst to it all the time and come up with no end of rubbish!!

tiptop · 11/10/2004 11:22

totallysickened - I can understand why you are very upset. I think you were right to check the history on your computer. What if other sites had been accessed that shouldn't have been ie illegal sites? Proving later in time that it wasn't you (say the sites were spotted when your computer went to a computer shop to be fixed or something) would be much more difficult. It might sound far fetched, but I know of others who have had their computer mis-used by another person. I'm more careful who I allow on mine as a result, as you say you will be in future. I'm sorry this has happened. Take care.

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totallysickened · 11/10/2004 11:53

thanks ladies. I just won't let him use my computer again. I probably won't say anything as it sickens me too much anyway. I feel better for getting it off my chest. Thank you.

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MrsDoolittle · 11/10/2004 12:09

I know the feeling totallysickened. It's quite therapeutic sometimes, isn't it?

lilibet · 11/10/2004 12:33

We have had a discussion about this at work this morning, and some popele who I work with are curious and want to see it !!!!!!

These are normal people, some of them are regular church goers, (don't know whay I think that is important)

I can't beleive it - I know that I would never be able to shut my eyes again

Socci · 11/10/2004 12:34

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Socci · 11/10/2004 12:35

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lou33 · 11/10/2004 12:36

I got emailed a link to it this morning, but deleted it immediately. the thought of watching it makes me feel sick. It's not a film, where he gets up and walks away at the end. Poor man.

spacemonkey · 11/10/2004 12:37

well I think the neighbour should be given the benefit of the doubt - as others have said, the link may have come up in a google search or on an email and he may have clicked onto it inadvertently

after nick berg's murder, my dd was sent a link to a video clip by someone on msn and I was absolutely horrified and sickened that she had watched it. Can't understand how anyone could find it "entertaining".

JoolsToo · 11/10/2004 12:39

Trouble is - it'll always be there hiding in your pc somewhere. I think I might have to say something - I mean its a bit sick really - you won't be able to look at him in the same light again - and apart from looking at it in the first place he's well out of order doing it on a neighbours pc - I'd be livid!

spacemonkey · 11/10/2004 12:41

I wouldn't say anything. I like to assume the best about people, so in this case I would assume he had clicked on it inadvertently.

Marina · 11/10/2004 12:43

When I was a naive and sheltered drama student we worked on a play called Masterpieces which was about snuff movies (porn films in which a helpless person is tortured etc and then killed on camera). I have never forgotten realising that the play was based on actual events as reported in the feminist press of the time (mid/late seventies) and that films like this did exist and were watched for pleasure.
I too cannot imagine how any civilised person would want to see such a film, but not all humans are civilised I guess (and I'm not making value judgments/assumptions about whose culture/country of origin is more or less civilised here).

Socci · 11/10/2004 12:54

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JanH · 11/10/2004 12:55

From what I've read today the film only went on the internet in the last 24 hours, so if he used it earlier than that is it possible that it wasn't on that page at the time he was looking?

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totallysickened · 11/10/2004 13:00

so he obviously knew where to look then.....why else would he go looking there??....god knows....he is sick as far as i am concerned now......

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PuffTheMagicDragon · 11/10/2004 13:08

I did a search for info on Ken Bigley, because I wanted to find out if there was somewhere I could leave a message of condolence to his family. Was able to do so, as The Liverpool Echo (Liverpool's daily newspaper is running a condolence book on its website).

I didn't look at anything else that came up in that search as I found what I was looking for and then deleted the search. There may well have been exactly the site being discussed here.

My intentions were honourable, and his may have been as others have said.

Today I was doing a search on the name of a Professor (distinguished in his field). Part of the search threw up some very "strange" things which I didn't open as I deduced that there must be some pornographic films which have a character called "Professor {name}! Absolutely nothing to do with the eminent man I was interested in!

Bunglie · 11/10/2004 13:14

I sent his family a card of condolence, nothing more I could say...I just felt that I had the need to do something, so it was more me being selfish I think.
I am afraid the thought of what happened to that poor man actually made me sick when I heard and I cried, so I not only find the whole thing quite stomach churning, literally, but I felt I needed to do something to make myself feel better, hence the card. But I am sad that I did it probably for the wrong reason. I hope this makes sense to someone.

lou33 · 11/10/2004 13:21

My email didn't come from a person, but from a website.

PuffTheMagicDragon · 11/10/2004 13:24

I think that was a very thoughtful thing to do Bunglie and for all the right reasons.