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Spelling pedants -- your votes required!

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frogs · 03/10/2004 21:53

Dd1 (9) has been sent home with a spelling list that gives the plural of 'gateau' as 'gateaus'.

Being a clever-clogs know-all, she apparently informed the teacher that she'd looked it up in the dictionary, and the plural was actually 'gateaux'. Teacher maintains the normal spelling is the -s one, with the -x spelling as an unusual alternative. Dd1 is spitting tacks.

Who do you think is right? Your votes, please.

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Miaou · 03/10/2004 21:54

gateaux. NEVER heard gateaus in my life before!

marthamoo · 03/10/2004 21:55

Gateaux. Absolutely no question.

agy · 03/10/2004 21:55

Dd1!

wobblyknicks · 03/10/2004 21:55

Gateaux definitely - teacher should be strung up by a grammer curmudgeon!!!

muddaofsuburbia · 03/10/2004 21:56

Cakes!

Definitely gateaux.

KangaMummy · 03/10/2004 21:56

XXXXXXXX all the time X not S

pixiefish · 03/10/2004 21:57

gateaux

coppertop · 03/10/2004 21:57

I've only ever seen "gateaux", not "gateaus".

jamiesam · 03/10/2004 21:58

Definitely gateaux.
Monty Python pronunciation as 'gatux' doesn't really work if you spell it gateaus...

Hulababy · 03/10/2004 22:01

Never heard of using an s for Gateau plural, only x

Looked on Yahoo. So far found:

". Some words of foreign origin (mainly from Latin or French) have their own special plural forms:

-um ? -a
-a ? -ae
-us ? -i
-is ? -es
-eau ? -eaux

So:

medium ? media
formula ? formulae
radius ? radii
axis ? axes
gateau ? gateaux"

from the Hutchinson Encyclopaedia 2000

and

Certain nouns used commonly in English are the same in English and French: gateau - gateaux on English Institute website

binkie · 03/10/2004 22:02

yes, dd1

it's about assimilation, though: I doubt geographers write plateaux nowadays (which is the line the teacher should have taken)

roisin · 03/10/2004 22:03

I would have gone for x - definitely.

BUT just checked Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors, which has -s as plural, with no alternative at all

My other standard reference books are all at work unfortunately.

acnebride · 03/10/2004 22:07

DD1 definitely right and I think this should have been acknowledged by teacher, though I think in her situation I would have accepted gateaus from other children even though I've never seen it IRL. Anything as long as it's not gateau's

I think this is a slightly odd choice of spelling word but quite impressive on the teacher's part. Next week, lasagne and bolognese?

carla · 03/10/2004 22:08

X!!! for sure!

marthamoo · 03/10/2004 22:10

So now the big question...is dd going to stand her ground with the teacher? Perhaps you could print this thread off for her to take in as evidence?

roisin · 03/10/2004 22:11

Collins Dictionary says -x
Oxford Concise says -x or -s
and Oxford School Spelling Dictionary says -x
[Rather encouragingly contradicting the ODWE]

sobernow · 03/10/2004 22:13

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Demented · 03/10/2004 22:14

I would have said x too.

frogs · 03/10/2004 22:16

Great response -- thank you, everyone! Clearly if attempting to generate the largest no. of responses in the shortest time on a Sunday evening, one should choose spelling pedantry over Calpol every time.

Glad you all agree with me dd1 will feel vindicated! But I fear I shall have to encourage her to Let It Go she's already been sent out of the classroom four times in a fortnight for being a PITA, so probably shouldn't be encouraged in further displays of Attitude.

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jampot · 03/10/2004 22:17

Gateaux definitely. My dd was once sent home with "fourty" as a spelling too

marthamoo · 03/10/2004 22:17

She'll go far, frogs

skerriesmum · 03/10/2004 22:21

Of course it's gateaux, it's a French word ffs!

Hulababy · 04/10/2004 08:30

Just got Oxford Concise Disctionary out and it has both spellings as possible plurals - both S and X. However neither are classed as the "normal" or "alternative".

Think the teacher here is being very unencouraging to your DD. She should ahve said well done; that is the other spelling allowed yes. Grrr!

ks · 04/10/2004 08:41

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