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Calling all pedants!!! Your help please

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strawberry · 12/07/2007 11:03

I'm writing an article about women who are not satisfied with their current contraception.

So are they UNsatisfied or DISsatisfied and does it really matter?

I have used one version but it keeps coming back from the agency changed to the other! Over to you...

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missgriss · 12/07/2007 11:05

I would say it's unsatisfactory, but dissatisfied. I could be wrong though....

hatwoman · 12/07/2007 11:07

agree with missgriss

HarrywillNOTfuckingdie · 12/07/2007 11:08

yy to missgriss

strawberry · 12/07/2007 11:13

Thank you. I have been using dissatsfied although both are in the OED.

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hatwoman · 12/07/2007 11:13

thinking about it I think either is ok. But I think they are generally used in slightly different ways. I think you are unsatisfied with regard to wishes/desires. it is these wishes that are not satisfied. But I think you are dissatisfied with regard to products. The product failed to satisfy your wishes. But they are so close I'm really not sure and I think they are more or less used interchangeably

butterbeer · 12/07/2007 11:16

Kenneth G. Wilson (1923?). The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. 1993.

[OK, not British English, but I think the same applies]

dissatisfied, unsatisfied (adjs.)

These two are synonyms in the sense "not satisfied," but they differ in other ways.

Dissatisfied means "displeased, discontented, or not satisfied" and usually describes people or other animals:
We were dissatisfied with our rooms.
The dog seemed dissatisfied when confined to the tiny run.

Unsatisfied means "not satisfied, not fulfilled, or left undone" and modifies conditions, needs, and other inanimate matters:
The appetites of the hungry hikers were left unsatisfied
An unsatisfied requirement in science prevented her graduation

It also modifies persons, where it suggests that their needs are not fully met.

hatwoman · 12/07/2007 11:18

sounds like what I was getting at. good

strawberry · 12/07/2007 11:26

So given that the women are not satisfied then it's dissatisfied. Although it's the women's needs that are unsatisfied.

It's in the title so important to get it right.

Butterbear - "It also modifies persons, where it suggests that their needs are not fully met" makes me think that unsatisfied may also be acceptable.

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strawberry · 12/07/2007 11:29

apostrophe error

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butterbeer · 12/07/2007 11:42

Yes, I think that their expectations of their contraception are unsatisfied, while they themselves are dissatisfied.

Some other online sources don't have that tagged-on part, so I think that "dissatisfied" is much the better choice.

Butterbeertroot · 12/07/2007 11:44
Wink
strawberry · 12/07/2007 11:45

Thank you BB

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Quiddaitch · 12/07/2007 11:47

unhappy

aloha · 12/07/2007 11:48

I would also use unhappy - esp in a headline.

or something else eg 80% of women want more choice in contraception

butterbeer · 12/07/2007 13:24

Yes, setting the pedantry point aside for a moment (although there is always time for more pedantry) I agree with aloha.

MycroftH · 12/07/2007 13:26

dissatisfied is a more British term, the other is largely American.

AttilaTheMum · 12/07/2007 13:30

I would use unsatisfied if nothing had happened and dissatisfied if something had happened that I was not happy with - so they are dissatisfied with the contraception they have used (because they have used it) but their needs are unsatisfied (becuase nothing has happened as far as their needs are concerned)

OK, that sounds crap, but I can't think of any way of putting it better...

Quiddaitch · 12/07/2007 14:00

you really can't use either in a headline, seriously. it distracts from the point rather than makes people think 'oh really? i must read that'.

strawberry · 12/07/2007 16:45

To clarify, the working title from the client is "Unsatisfied COC users" which I changed to dissatisfied. This seems to be the consensus. Then various references in article to satisfaction levels. The article is for GPs. Still thinking about actual title but definitely need soemthing more catchy!

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Bink · 12/07/2007 16:53

Think if it's for GPs title is fine (using "Dissatisfied"). Dissatisfied is better, as the connotation is quite an active negative feeling - "I really do not like this contraception and I need a better option" - as opposed to unsatisfied, which is more "this contraception could be doing a bit more for me"

And "unsatisfied" is of course to do with unfulfilled appetites, which has a faintly infelicitous double-entrendy air when used about contraception.

So there you are.

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