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Am I being a diva/brat? honest opinions wanted!

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lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 10:00

I'll try and be brief.

I'm a single parent claiming benefits but I desperately want to work, I went to college last year and got all the qualifications that I needed but nobody will employ me due to lack of experience.

Upon telling my advisor this he recommended starting me on a course where they would train me up and find me a work placement so I could gain experience. Sounded good.

So I went to talk to them, she made it sound great, "you would come here one day a week for an intensive job search where you would be given lots of help and support as well as being able to meet people like yourself etc...the rest of the week you would be out working in your chosen career".

Sounded great so I signed up.

It started 2 weeks ago on the monday, I got there at 10am and we were directed to a make-shift room at 10.20 and given piles of paperwork to go through, this took from 10.20 until 2pm which was the time we finish. I expected that on the first day though.

Went in on the tuesday and it was exactly the same exept nobody else turned up until 10:10am (not even the trainer!) so I was sat there on my own wondering if I'd come to the wrong place. When they did turn up she got out yet more paperwork and asked us to work through that which we did until 2pm again.

Wednesday - exactly the same except the paperwork was now finished so we were filling in "what I want to do" type stuff until 2pm.

Thursday - getting tired of the place already, got there and was handed the folders and told to work through them...they were finished 2 days ago! so we were sat there from 10am to 2pm doing sod all.

We were told at this point that most of us would have placements by the end of the following week so this boosted our spirits.

Monday was bank holiday. Tuesday we went in, the room we were using had a group of blokes in, I wandered around for 10 minutes before catching the trainer on her "cig break" who told me to go and sit in the little office on floor 4. I went and sat in there on my own for 10 minutes before two young girls came in...the following 10 minutes were spent hearing about the girls sex life , the trainer eventually came back and told us we could go and work on the 2nd floor if we wanted to?? So we went down, got sat in a computer room and left until 2pm. The most interesting thing I did all day was play freecell on one of the computers. I was so bored it was driving me nuts.

Wednesday was exactly the same.

Thursday we got there for 10am, the trainer turned up at 10:30am and told us to "go through our folders" and do what exactly??? So thursday was spent litrally just sat at a desk, looking out the window and talking to each other constantly clock watching.

I managed to get through the week as I'd been told I would start my work placement the following monday (today), it was exactly what I wanted to do (NHS) and I was really looking foward to it. Over the weekend I got a new blouse etc, got all ready this morning and got a phone call on the way there "can we postpone it until next week?" , the woman I was supposed to go and work for had a major bereavement in the family and would be taking the rest of the week off. Fair enough...I was upset but these things happen.

Anyway I got another phonecall straight afterwards, "just come back to a4e (the training place) for this week and you can start a fresh with your placement next week"....I honestly cannot stomach the thought of going back there for another week. It's bloody pointless and stupid just sat at a desk for 4 hours staring out of the window. If we did something worthwhile fair enough but to go there to sit doing absolutely nothing for 4 hours EVERYDAY??? I only just managed to get through the last two weeks, I can't do another one .

Thing is they're funny about attendance, I don't want to get thrown off the course but like I said, the thought of doing that for another week is like torture. Do I pull a sickie (but its obvious I'm faking considering the circumstances), tell them the truth about why I'm not going in this week and risk being "told off" or "switch off", go on autopilot and just grin and bear it for another week?

Am I being a brat or am I justified in not wanted to go back until I start my placement?

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fryalot · 14/05/2007 10:02

I think you're justified in being mightily pissed off. But, I also think that they've got you over a barrell a bit, I think you have to go.

grit your teeth, smile and think of the very large glass of wine you can have at the end of the day.

Quootiepie · 14/05/2007 10:02

You aren't being a diva, but I think you should go in, it's just one more week. Can you take a book? x

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Cappuccino · 14/05/2007 10:06

buy a book or two about your chosen field

bigger the better

read it really pointedly throughout the session

harass the trainer with relevant questions about your reading

sunnysideup · 14/05/2007 10:07

Yes it sounds like you ought to go, but I would make an appointment with the course leader and let them know just how terrible the 'course' is. It's outrageous! This 'lecturer' is getting paid! Don't let them get away with being so utterly unprofessional.

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lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 10:08

Thanks everyone, I'm just so pissed off, nothing ever seems to go right and I'm really trying to better our lives.

I'm 26. The other people on the course are either much older than me (in their 40's) or much younger (under 20) and I don't really "click" with any of them which makes it worse. The young ones just mess about all day like they're at school.

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Cappuccino · 14/05/2007 10:09

oh and make copious notes

ask if there is any more work for your folder as you have finished it

be like the biggest swot

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ScummyMummy · 14/05/2007 10:11

Can totally understand your frustration. Sounds like a really abysmally bad course. Is the trainer approachable? Could you tactfully explain that you feel like there's not enough to do? If not I'd seriously consider going 'sick' for at least a couple of days in your situation, I must admit, and autopilot the rest. Seems such a shame it's so crap when you are all motivated and keen. Poor you. Hope the placement is fab at least.

lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 10:11

Everytime I try and "do something productive" whilst I'm there the others just take the piss out of me, it honestly is like being back at school.

I want to get into social work, the placement was with a mental health team in the NHS which sounded ideal. I'm doing an open uni course to help too but I just cant find a job.

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TwirlyN · 14/05/2007 10:12

I think you should go to. However, you really need to say something to the person in charge of training, or higher if you can. What a complete waste of time. These people are supposed to be motivating you, keeping you interested. Don't put up with it. Could they not even ask the company where you have your placement, if you could just shadow someone for the time being.

sunnysideup · 14/05/2007 10:15

lifesteeth, I think it might be worth talking to the human resources dept. at your local council. From my experience I know that sometimes vacancies that exist aren't always being advertised due to budgets and things; you may well be able to get a job as a social work assistant....even if you couldn't get a job you might be able to volunteer yourself just to get some experience.

Also, I know it's not glam but even jobs like working as a carer in a Nursing home is seen as valid experience for jobs in social services. Those jobs are always available.

Best of luck.

lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 10:16

the nhs woman sounds really nice and she was very apologetic this morning, she did say I could go and work in a different centre until she's back at work if I wanted to but it would take a couple of days to sort out (so we're talking wedsnday at the earliest) and I'm not there on thursday anyway as its the training day so I really didnt see the point just for one day and she didn't sound too keen either, think she just wanted to offer me "something" to avoid putting me off altogether.

The trainer is nice enough but she doesnt take it seriously at all, she just tries to have a laugh with us and then disapears on "cig breaks" every 5 minutes.

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ScummyMummy · 14/05/2007 10:19

how are your qualifications, lifesteeth? Do you have A levels? Or could you do an access course? Then you could do the new social work degree.

lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 10:20

I'm doing "understanding health and social care" with the OU but apart from that I have no qualifications other than admin and GCSE's

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Grrrr · 14/05/2007 10:22

I suspect that they are hot on attendance as they get funded by the government for these "courses" and need to prove that they actually had people turning up.

I hope it helps you get the type of work you want, you sound very motivated.

themildmanneredjanitor · 14/05/2007 10:39

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twelveyeargap · 14/05/2007 10:42

I take my hat off to you for doing what you're doing and for sticking with it. Well done.

I'm afraid you will have to grin and bear it, but for your own satisfaction, I think you should speak to the trainer and if you don't get any joy, then I would take the complaint further.

Best of luck.

NappiesGalore · 14/05/2007 10:43

i will speak volumes about your staying power if you cant maange one more week. its only 4 hours a day. it sounds ubbish, but its hardly painful. and so what if people on the course take the piss out of you being industious? what the hell do you careabout their opinions for?

NappiesGalore · 14/05/2007 10:44

it will speak... not i will speak...

ScummyMummy · 14/05/2007 10:50

Don't be sad, lifesteeth. You have a goal and clearly have a lot to offer. I think you should investigate an Access course which will enable you to move onto the degree. Something like this or this. There'll be one near you.You are just the right age, imo. Still plenty of time to get qualified up but old enough to have life experience (and even lifes teeth!). And you will be v employable once you have a proper social work qualification.

Popple · 14/05/2007 11:46

Hi lifesteeth,
It sounds to me as though you are doing everything that you possibly can at this stage.
I'm the same age as you in a similar home life situation and also with the OU (2nd 9 month course now) working towards a degree. I know the OU do Social Work degrees that your current course will count towards.
I am just starting to look for jobs and I know that I too have done all I can do make myself an attractive proposition as an employee - with regards to further education. If I have no luck then I imagine I will be joining a scheme similar to yours.

My advice would be to just keep going. Rise above the rest of them and get on with it. The placement you have been offered sounds ideal so don't let yourself down now when you have been doing so well. You will kick yourself for it later if you do.

Oh, and have you dumped your irritating boyfriend yet?!

lifesteeth · 14/05/2007 11:56

pmsl popple! not yet but I'm extremely close to it!

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