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What a day, Massive showdown with dd's gym teacher!

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PinkChick · 25/04/2007 20:21

dd (4yrs) go;'s to a 45 min gym session organsied by school on wednesdays straight after nursery.
there are ten children there and all nice children
she initially said 12 could go, did first week then said 2 MUST drop out, you can imagine poor kids..anyway, first week, we all thought she was a bit offsh with children expecting too much of a bunch of 3/4 yr olds, but stuck with it...by third week we were all getting sick of her ordering about and negativity(sit on crash mat NOw, or ill take horse away, stand in line NOW or you cant join in?????!!!), no persuasion, just threats and orders..so we had a two week break due to room being booked my someone else, she then decides the two weeks after, she 'doesnt want to do it these weeks'..so all the children are upset(they dont see it the way we did!)..so today was first day back.we walk in, she doesnt even acknowledge them, doesnt talk to them jsut sits on floor and waits, not speaking for everyone to turn up..kids are looking at her wondering if shes going to acknowledge theyre there?...all children arrive, she tells them to get in line, ad do this(now stop me if im wrong but a little hello , could you all please get in line wouldnt have gone amiss!)..and thats how it went alls ession, then two or three of the LO's had stood up and were doing star jumps, she shouted really loud(all us mums stopped talking!)..everyone be quiet and sit down NOW.well my dd was sat there all this time then she MADE them all sit with their hands on their heads and said why are we not doing gym now??..no one answed..she then said because you are ALL being silly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok my blood is boiling by now as dd had done nothing, others hadnt really they were just doing star jump FGS at a gym class!...one of dd's frends sisters is mentally handicapped and wanted to join in..she kept picking her up and moving out of the way, saying she was not 'part' of the group..she is 3!..this went on and on..lastly while im sat getting more and more annoyed, she shouts, right who wants the parachute out??..all kids shout ME ME!..she then shouts BE QUIET!!!!or i wont get it out??????????????..she gets it out, kids love it and grab a handle each, this little girl, runs under it and teacher says, if you dont stop running under, i will put it away(it was only the sister who wasnt 'part' of the group that did it, plus none of the children heard her as they were shaking parachut..then one of the other children ran underneath.she grabbed the parachute and said right, its going away, literally pulling it out of the childrens hands!!!!!!!

so i shouted dd over my face like thiunder and got her changed, shed sat down with others and we walked out..went to reception and said i wanted to compalain..as i was talking the teacher came out with all her gear so i said to her i wanted to know why she felt it necessary to speak to 3/4 yr olds in that manner, why she never asked them, always told them or threatend them, i said she was totally lacking in social skills and if she didnt like working with children she was more than happy getting£40 for 3/4 hour work for it!..she had the decency to go red but then said well if you dont like it, dont come!!!!!!!..manager of centre was behind her and i said that her attitude was disgusting, i asked her if she even knew the name of any one of the children and she said shed only been doing it for 3 wks!(weve been there5!?)
She then said gymnastics was dangerous and if theyre all messing around they could get hurt!..theyre doing forward rolls on crash may and playing with the parachute!....argh!
sorry its long, but am so annoyed.am glad i pulled her up about it and all other mums said they agreed, but nowi have to put my complaint in to school and i had already mentioned our concerns to them in morning!

sorry, this is mainly just a ramble to de stress me!, cant believe shes getting away with speaking to tiny children that way..and that i was the only one to speak up

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PinkChick · 26/04/2007 10:59

??????????????????LOL

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MadamePlatypus · 26/04/2007 11:06

Wow, that woman is so unsuited to her job it is almost funny! Well done for complaining! What on earth does she think she is doing charging people money so that she can shout at their pre-schoolers!

throckenholt · 26/04/2007 11:08

if she was really as unsympathetic to 3-4 year olds as that then there is no way she should be teaching reception kids.

There is a real skill in dealing with littlies - I watched a sports coach used to dealing with teenagers try and take a class of 5 year olds. He reduced my ds to tears - it was said in a way that a teenager would have coped with happily but my 5 year old couldn't. The coach was mortified when he realised ds's reaction.

Hope your meeting with the head goes well. Just point out that she was not handling the excitement of the little ones well, and her general approach was not working with such young children.

MadamePlatypus · 26/04/2007 11:12

The teacher says she doesn't know how to talk to children because she is so young? What an odd thing to say - either she is suited to the job or not, age doesn't come into it.

She sounds like somebody who should be in a Catherine Tate sketch.

mytwopenceworth · 26/04/2007 13:01

and very very importantly, make the first thing you point out - there was cctv footage! your side of the story indeed. tell the head she can go and watch it herself!!!!

kittypants · 26/04/2007 13:04

well done for saying something.omg at her behaviour!

edam · 26/04/2007 13:07

Blimey. What an awful, vile woman. Obviously realises the hole she's dug for herself and is trying to throw the soil onto you.

Good point re manager and CCTV, make you sure tell the head about that.

dionnelorraine · 26/04/2007 13:23

What a complete bitch!!!! I cant believe she actually has a job there! She needs to be sacked!!!! Sounds like you have sports managers support and the cctv will show head teacher! I would write everything down and take it with you tomorrow, bullet points maybe? You know what its like after an interview, meeting or argument....."damn it, i wish i said....."

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PinkChick · 26/04/2007 14:17

thanks everyone, i am going to write points down as now have more stress with mum to sort out so head full at minute
one of the mums said to me today that she was thinking of asking for her money back??!!..i may mention this myself tomorrow!, and the other mums i spoke to this afty said they would also stand up and agree as she waas way over the top and should not be teaching children, the one who told me shed complained said that this vile excuse of a woman actually grabbed and hurt her dd's hand snatching the parachute off her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...arghhhh
then another mum said "well she was crying when she got into her car"!!!!!!!!!!!! so what!, i hadnt called her names and picked on her, if she cant handle being told not to speak to children worse than animals she shouldnt treat them like that in the first place..makes me so mad

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dionnelorraine · 26/04/2007 14:21

Good on you Pinkchick!! I know its frustrating but you can do it! stand up to the head, gather all your evidence and show them whats really going on! Oh and definatly try to get money back!

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PinkChick · 26/04/2007 14:26

so would she be registered with ofsted then???

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PinkChick · 26/04/2007 14:27

sorry, have jsut rang centre they done have her name or anything, its all done through school and they done know how much she gets paid out of the money we pay through school???

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PinkChick · 26/04/2007 14:44

duty manager who came after me yestreday has just rang me, he said if i want he will come round with me tomorrow and tell her exactly what she said.
he then said that if that was any member of thier staff, he would have(his words) 'had them over hot coals' and that if she had any ounce of profesionalism, she shoul have asked me to discuss it somewhere private...they do have recorded cctv./but no sound on it

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dionnelorraine · 27/04/2007 08:07

Thats great news though! At least the manager will come with you and back you up, which you should take him up on! That will be all you need I should imagine!
Let us know how it goes.
Good luck! Give em what for!

JARM · 27/04/2007 08:20

I am so angry for you - words fail me.

Hope all goes well today.

moondog · 27/04/2007 08:38

Good on you Pinkchick.
People like this are positively dangerous around small children.What a nasty fucker she sounds!

DominiConnor · 27/04/2007 08:50

It's worth pointing out that there is a disability discrimination act. The employer is liable for the way that the gym teacher clearly discriminates against the disabled child.
They need to know this.
They will almost certainly take the path ofd least resistance, and you may get fobbed off with "we've spoken to her", and the famous "lessons have been learned".

aDad · 27/04/2007 08:53

Well done pinkchick, you've done the right thing!

Stephanie1970 · 27/04/2007 10:59

Hi am just new to MN and want to say well done Pinkchick. with our little ones we need to be their voice of reason and defence.

I'm like you, I would have HAD to complain about her dealings with the little one's. I CANNOT believe all the other mums were happy to sit and watch her treating their kids in that manner and let yoiu do all the talking ..I think they're just cowards,which is shocking !! No way would I have sat back and allowed that behaviour to continue with my DS's

I'm watching this thread with great interest to find out how your meeting went today.

Feel proud of yourself for not allowing her to get away with shocking behaviour.

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PinkChick · 27/04/2007 19:56

hi guys, thanks for taking an interest
well i wrote the whole fiasco down for head as i had 3 mindees today, to woud be wwith me and one coming at 9.30 , but when i got there, the head pleased with me to speak with her as well?
so went to her office, explained briefly what happend and she told me what had been said...she said this girl had gone to her manager apparently in tears saying i scared her!, i was agreesive and i heckled her all the way to her car and she was frightend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i told the head exactly what she di/said to the chlidren in the class and head said to me, yes she was out of order and would I as a proffesional childcarer please speak to her to give her some tips on how to work with chlidren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..if it wasnt dd's head, my answer would have started in F and ended in off!..i said no, as she has been like this with every child for the last 6 weeks now and i dont believe she has it in her to change, i said she was not young, but uncaring, harsh and had no ability to interact with children of that age....best of it is, she actually teaches reception and year 1 gym in the school and the teacher thought it was going so well thats why they put something on for nursery!
so drawing to a close, head apologised as she said she had got it very wrong, so i stopped her and said NO, in theory this was a fantastic idea, but the instructor was the problem, she aske dif i would go back and i said no, she then said she has spoken to one or two of the other mothers and although they have backed up my complaint, they said they WOULD take their children back!..hey ho!
she then clsoed door and asked me to tell her if the child who in handicaped, was naked in the class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..the little tot had taken her trousers off so she was like the other girls, her mum put them back on after 2 mins!, she had pull up and t-shirt on

so shed blatemtly lied about that poor child????

as we wer walking out i mentioned about her picking the children up to move them and the fact she had told them they were all being silly when she made them sit with hands on heads..things came out which id only rememberd just then and not in meeting and by the time we reached the door she was thanking me for telling her and wa fuming at her.ALL truth, no exageration(as if id ned too!).so she said she would let me know what happend next!

she also told me that shed spoken to centre duty manager and he had sang my praises, confirmd i was NOT in any way aggressive, i did not heckle her all way to car and that her attitude and behaviour where disgusting!..cheers pete!.so basically she was seeing who's "story" fitted most closely!...we shall see...still done know which aprents told her they would go tho cos the ones i have spoken to have denied speaking to her and said they dont think they would go back either?????????????
oops, posted too early!

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ruddynorah · 27/04/2007 20:09

phew! glad it went well.

edam · 27/04/2007 20:14

Good. Now let's see what the head does about it. Not only is this woman unfit to teach children, she's also a ruddy liar.

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PinkChick · 27/04/2007 20:22

I KNOW!!, fancy lying about such things!..i refrained from telling them mum as i dont want to stir things unecessarily, but she obv a lying, imature nasty little bitch! and if she wanted to see aggressive, she should have waited until id taken dd home as i do have a harsh streak, but never in front of children..and when she said she is good in school with recpetiona nd year one, i said well doent that tell you that she not 'really' that person if she can change so easilly when out of school and with 3-4 yr olds for gods sake!......argh

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mrsjohnsimnelcake · 27/04/2007 20:31

i would gagree to teach her how to talk to children- for about £40 and hour or so- would be fun

i am so surprised that yr head teacher would suggest that tbh, sounds like she is a bit of a space cadet too

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PinkChick · 27/04/2007 20:45

LOL, yeah i should have said you cant afor dme baby!..they kept on about how 'young' she was and she would need to be taught how to 'deal' with young children and as im a cm would i do it!!!..hmm let me think, the little cow tells me if i dont like it lump t.then says i was ansty and agressive to her, that i badgerd her to car.ermmmmmmmmmmmmmm......what to do???
why the HELL would i want to 'help' her!, she needs a stint in hospital to get those make believe tendancies sorted!

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