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If the ABS kicks in when you are in your driving test is it an immediate fail?

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TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 21:36

I passed my test before abs was in invented but my sister apparently failed because whilst performing an emergency stop the abs came on?

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TrinityRhino · 06/03/2007 21:36

I read that as IBS.......... PMSL

TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 21:44

would certainly be distracting

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Coolmama · 06/03/2007 21:45

abs is a system that prevents your car from going into a skid in an "emergency-brake" situation - it has no impact on your drivers test.

TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 21:53

thats what i've been telling her. I said that I had to pump the brakes in my test at the emergency stop as the car would have skidded otherwise. surely it must have been lake of control , maybe she didn't know what the car had done and didn't continue to control the car?

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Skribble · 06/03/2007 21:55

No it should come on if the road is wet or slippy. It is ther to stop you skidding.
When my instructor got me to practice my emergency stop, he explained before thet the ABS might kick in and what it felt like, in fact he made sure I braked enough to get it to kick in so I experienced it.

TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 21:58

That is another problem skribble- I tried saying that it was down to the instructor to teach her to do it properly, and I don't think he is doing his job properly. He has given her some waffle about not applying so much pressure ffs

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charliecat · 06/03/2007 21:59

If you put your foot on the brake before the clutch its a fail.

charliecat · 06/03/2007 22:00

or is it the other way round?

JanH · 06/03/2007 22:02

I thought ABS worked automatically whenever you had to brake hard? I've never noticed it "kicking in", how does it feel when it does?

(Now realise I am v ignorant about ABS )

ash6605 · 06/03/2007 22:04

other way around!

tbh i think the examiners just make it up as they go along,im sure they're on commision for failing people(sore subject-failed mine for the second time on friday and my instructor told me that i should never have failed on what i did and she even questioned the examiner)

TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 22:05

I thought it was the other way round- have been trying to find somewhere on the web that would make her see that just simply the abs coming on is not an immediate fail. There must be something more to it and either she is not understanding what she has been told or the instructor is not teaching her correctly.
Tests are so expensive and she has already failed twice I am concerned that she isn't ready for her third this week

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lackofgravitas · 06/03/2007 22:07

JanH, the ABS 'kicking in' feels like you've put the brake pedal through the floor of the car and it's dragging along the road! It's a MOST offputting sensation.

TheOriginalXENA · 06/03/2007 22:07

Jan- basically it would feel like a shuddering as the car pumps the brakes for you (or that is the simple terms that my dh uses for me )
shuddering is a good discription of what the car did when some idiot pulled out on me the other day

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Kelly1978 · 06/03/2007 22:08

what does it feel like when the abs comes on?

I've never even really thought about it. I passed my test first time, jsut over a year ago. No mention was ever made abt abs.

lol, tr, I read it as IBS too!

Kelly1978 · 06/03/2007 22:09

crossed posts, I remember that once, I thought the brakes were failing

How does pumping the brakes help?

JanH · 06/03/2007 22:11

I just found this:

Coolmama · 06/03/2007 22:12

this might help explain things a bit.

JanH · 06/03/2007 22:14

Oh, you would definitely notice then?

I can't ever have braked hard enough to make them work!

ash6605 · 06/03/2007 22:14

it doesn't actually say you fail but i read it as you would fail:"and avoid braking so hard that you lock any of the wheels"

airy · 06/03/2007 22:20

Yes it says "avoid braking so hard that you lock any of the wheels" I take it you would fail if you did do that and ABS kicks in just before the wheels lock to avoid a skid. So I suppose if the abs kicked in during her test it could be deemned that she had braked too hard?

Skribble · 06/03/2007 23:08

My ABS kicks in quite often, perhaps because I am a bit rural with mud and gravel on the road at junctions.

Kelly1978 · 07/03/2007 00:08

I'd hate that skribble, are you sure there isn't somethng wrong with your car?
Mine did it that time in my old 4x4, a huge heavy nissan terrano, and I think I prefered it skidding (which it was prone to) - at least that I felt like I had more control over it!

thunk · 07/03/2007 02:52

i suppose if the abs kicked in in RL it means taht you were going too fast for the conditions of the road or that you were not driving with due care and attention. IE that you are to be paying enough attention to be able to anticipate an emergency happening before you had to break so hard. even with abs it is causing unnecessary wear and tear on your car.

pumping the brakes is only advised if your car does not have abs.

i recently had to break so hard, the abs kicked in. it was either that or killing the old lady who stepped into the dual carraige way without looking.

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