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Rainbows/Brownies/beavers/cubs etc and church parade

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nikkie · 14/01/2007 18:32

Dd has started Brownies attactched to a different church to her rainbow group and today was her first chruch parade.At both churches I have been surpised that less than half the troups seem to come.We have never been regularly (prob about half) as my 2 go to their Dads house on a Sun or sometimes sleep Sat night and therefore don't get home in time.
When I was a Brownie if you didn't attend 1/2 you got kicked out.Are all groups like this now?

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MrsBadger · 14/01/2007 18:34

Don't think they can enforce church attendance these days - it has changed a bit to be more multicultural.

wheresthehamster · 14/01/2007 19:04

We are only asked to attend St George's Day and Remembrance Day and all my girls know that it is part and parcel of belonging to these groups to make the effort and turn up.

Some mothers say no way and attendance is never enforced.

The current Brown Owl hands out certificates to attendees, but it doesn't particularly swell the ranks.

PeachyClair · 14/01/2007 19:20

When I was a rainbow guider (only 18 months ago), we were lucky to get 1 or 2,, I remember vividly getting none at all one week! Nothing we could do, tbh- partly coz we couldn't get most of the adult helpers to attend either . Poeple are busy these days, Sunday isn't a clear day the way it once was, there's divided famillies, working shifts, alternative hobbies (where I come from loads of people did the carnivals on Sundays)..... ad infinitum. Then ther were those with kids who didn't settle well so they couldn't come....... add to that those famillies who really don't like Church, or even believe- exactly.

I did find they tended to make the services we had a part in and that is what amtters.

Bucketsofdynomite · 14/01/2007 19:35

My mum was a brown owl and used to pay me 50p to go church parade (20yrs ago) to keep up appearances.

Flumpytina · 14/01/2007 19:50

I help lead in 2 Rainbow groups and your dd would definitely NOT get kicked out for not attending church parade!! The girls are encouraged to attend when church parades are on, and (in our packs) they get a star on their star charts for coming (and sometimes a chocolate reward). I'm sure if you explained to your Brown Owl your circumstances she would understand completely. Is there any way her dad could get her to the church instead? The girls in both my packs actually really like coming to parades...they love the whole 'sitting up at the front in my uniform' bit!!

nikkie · 14/01/2007 19:53

Yeah everyone came to the Christmas Nativity one.
I always remember it being part of joining Brownies/whatever that you went ocacaisionally.Rainbows (X church) have church parade about 9 times a year (once a month excluding school hols) brownies (Y church ) I don't know yet but hink its similar.I don't think its much to go about 4 times a year though.

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nikkie · 14/01/2007 19:57

Flumpytina - Dd won't get kicked out ,I'm just saying thats what used to happen hen I was a Brownie.
The kids that go actually enjoy it ,all important in their uniform and hoping its their turn to carry the flag.

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Flumpytina · 14/01/2007 20:04

sorry, misread you!! Though there are still Brown Owls out there that are a bit old school and terrifying!! (not your dd's I hope).
I think it's a real shame that some girls never come on parade. I think it's part of the whole Girl Guiding experience, although Rainbows don't get a flag, just a poxy Olivia doll to carry which I think is a real shame.

gothicmama · 14/01/2007 20:06

girl guiding is open to all faiths now therfore church parade is not a prerequiste any more

MerlinsBeard · 14/01/2007 20:07

when i was a brownie it was only the thinking day parade we had to go to. They can't MAKE people go to church.

PeachyClair · 14/01/2007 20:12

Flumpy we had a flag

ooh no not a flag

it was pennant

that's rihght, a pennant

Definitely not a flag (inherited it from pervious mavericka nd slightly amd leader- and there's someone who knows her on here... oops )

church Parades etc these days depend on the Church or otherwise that hosts the meeting.

Flumpytina · 14/01/2007 20:32

PeachyClair..was it a home made pennant?!!!! Think I'd prefer to send the girls down the aisle with Olivia than something I'd tried to create (not very skilled in the craft department).

PeachyClair · 14/01/2007 21:34

Aht he maker was a professional- not some tatty bit of rubbish LOL!

nutcracker · 14/01/2007 21:39

Dd2 used to be in Rainbows and went to all the church parades whilst she was there but xp took her as I don't do church LOL.

She is now in Girls Brigade and there is a church parade coming up. I don't take her to GB as it's too awkward to get to with no car and 3 kids so she goes with her friend. So long as her friend is going to church parade then so will dd.

wotzsaname · 14/01/2007 21:44

my dd never attends parade. It is never mentioned. We have no pressure to go. She appreciates peoples faiths and different views and doesnt need to go to church to get these values. Sorry if I offend anyone.
If it ever became an issue and felt she was in some way undervalued in her group i am sure she would wan to leave anyway. Certificate to attendees, didnt know that happend.
FWIW : Brownies and Guides can now join the Scotts. How things change. Correct me if i am wrong.

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