Swagger Inn Thread 101 - we're out & we're proud of our love for The Musketeers

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So, we have passed our 100,000 posts of Musketeer-related musings & as befits such an achievement, we got our shout-out on Twitter from Jess Pope Any lurkers out there, come on in & state your boffing order.

In the spirit of celebration, I am also imposing the rule that everywench's first post in here has to be accompanied by a pretty Musketeers pic. Don't let me down now mis wenchitas.

Want a second dc but dp doesnt so that's that. he's probably right it probably wouldnt be a good idea being as how Im fucked with chronic migraines

Had ds with epidural and ventouse delivery in spain. (They dont have gas and air in spain, so its epidural or nothing.) It was awful cos I couldnt really speak the language. And their policy is no birth partner present if any intervention is used. So they tried to chuck out dp (who could speak Spanish) and I started crying and the doctor called me "melodramatic" and we had a huge row because dp point blank refused to leave. All 5 mins before ds was born.

So that was nice.

Post delivery the doc (female) was so furious with us, she stitched me up with evident utter rage and then barely spoke to us.

Oh and they scraped ds totally clean of all the lubricating gunk he was born with. So he had sore, dry, flaky skin for the next two weeks.

Everyone there was totally backward wrt breastfeeding. Nurses on ward (they kept me in for 4 days as this is policy with stitches) gave me no support when they saw it didnt happen straight away. One nurse started bottle feeding him in front of me "because the child has to eat" and the discharge doctor wrote down for me formula feeding instructions and told me not to get a "bad mother complex."

At home I taught myself to bf using nct books that my friend in uk sent me. There is no nct or hvs or anything like that there. It was the hardest thing I ever did but am most proud of. Bf him til 21 months. Fuck you spain!!!!

God that all sounds hellish madame. You did really well in the face of all that.

I went overdue with both boys and was actually due to be induced in the afternoon of the days they arrived. Contrary little sods.
With babymouse, I went in at 2am, had him at about quarter to 6. And then left in the evening of that day. It was Mr M's birthday and I was determined to be home. I did make it for pizza and prosexxo, though MIL said I looked really grey.

Morning.

letus, your post of 8.34 is perfect. Wise words indeed, accompanied by some pretty. I'll add in that if you decide not to have children, can't have children or never get round to having children, you'll be judged for that as well. Fuck off then is really the only sensible response to it all .

That sounds awful madame, I think you did brilliantly to cope with that & well done to your DP for supporting you.

apricot - your experience sounds similar to mine wrt bf - only DS keep falling asleep rather than pushing me away. End result was the same, it lasted about a week. DD was so much easier & I bf for over 18 months (see earlier points re laziness ). With both I got mastitis about a week after birth, horrible.

Oh, forgot to say, great vid elk

Morning all, this is why I love the wenches. On any other thread/in life there'd be either massive scorn or utter competitiveness about conception/birth/bf/lack of DC, but here in the tav? We are all bloody brilliant and supportive and I luffs you.

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Yay for Madame and a big 'up yours' to Spanish maternity crapness.

to elk for the link (apricot yes - he looks knackered - but we said that about the photos that came out of it as well didn't we?) and also LetUs for summing up the never-ending guilt-trip that is parenthood!

Yep, what fancy said at 9.13, Helen said at 9.52 and Flops at 9.48. Wise words, wise wenches.

Oh and great thing about ds1 being 16 days late, the look on little old ladies' faces when they would ask me when the baby was due as I was killing time wandering around the local high street by myself, and I would blithely answer, 'oh about 8 days ago'.

Morning. YYY to what Flopsy said. Step into other parts of Mumsnet and every one of us would be judged a failure for working, not working, BF, not BF, type of birth, kids, no kids etc etc. When actually it's no one else's business but yours. Fuck em all. I'm staying here with the wenches and HBFs.

I was crap at getting pregnant and staying pregnant and would also be dead. DC were pregnancies 5 & 6. 5 was with help but 6 was amazingly all our own work. Both sections, the first because I was given no choice and the second because when midwives were pushing me down the VBAC route I asked to see Consultant and told him that if I had more than a 50% chance of ending up having a section I wanted him to tell me. He got diary out and booked me in for elective. So I "fail" on many levels but not a fuck shall be given .

Am off out for girly shopping and lunch in a bit. It's my friends birthday and also the last Friday before school holidays so we think we deserve it. Hope wenches have a good day.

Oh and forgot to say last night, TMouse is brilliant.

Oh and also WTAF re Spain? Bloody hell Madame.

I did that issy.

'When's the little one due?'
'Tuesday'
'Oh, my goodness. That's soon'
'I meant last Tuesday'

Have fun MrsB.

I do love the wenches - non judgemental, not giving a fuckness with hbfs thrown in.

Forgot to say thanks for the vid elk (but TB's wrong about nor hot water in British teashops and I'll personally give him a tour of my favourite ones which give you hot water for top ups, if he'd care)

I'd give him a personal tour too Issy

It is indeed all bollocks.
WE ARE WENCH

Feel very weepy and tried today. Not helped by the fact I missed my ecg Ppt with the nurse yesterday...thought it was today. I almost burst into tears in the waiting room!
Dh due back anytime and I fear I will just cry for an hour once I see him :(
Dr I saw is now on hols for 2 weeks so I have to try and get in with one of the lady Drs next week to discuss results.
Wedding tomorrow. Don't want to go, but it's a dear friend and I won't let her down.
DH has to take ds2 to a b day party at a farm so it could be worse
Tom is soooo sweet in that vid. But, yes, he does look tired. Up early filming I guess. I would love to go to Venice with Tom it's in my wish list.

Badders and etc Sounds like you need some 'me' time with a musketeer

I posted earlier but it doesn't seem to be here. Why do we need tin foil hats - I couldn't see what happened in the video.

I have been lucky, got pregnant very easily the first two times, very easy pregnancy with DS1 - a sign of how accommodating and easy he has ever been. PND afterwards though and no breastfeeding as I was pretty suicidal at times. It feels like I entirely missed the first year of his life. DS2 and 3 I was sick for the entire pregnancies so much so that I actually just quit work when i was pregnant with DS3. All my labours have been fine, with gas and air and two with some narcotics that let me have a nap :-) I went back to work really really soon after DS1 and 2 but took 2 years off with DS3 - bf fail with all of them but I tried again each time. I am a much better parent now they are older, I found when they were young really really hard.

I have good news, I told work I want to leave to get something part time and instead they are working out how to make my role work part time! I also bit the bullet and applied for my MA for October and have an interview at my current uni on Thursday next week - so things are going well chez Aramis.

Madame - what a truly shit pile of shite Spain was to you.

Just to ensure I am keeping up Sparkle's rules - I leave

Good grief about the Spanish birth Madame!

Births ok. I had to attend London every week, for both pregnancies. Mine both ended up as c sections. Very quick, only minutes from start to pushing. I bf both of mine, but both were very difficult for different reasons. Hospital apologised to Dh and I for deciding to not tell us that ds2 had a severe tongue tie!!

Re festivals, at Gloucester, my eldest brother invited me. I couldn't find our tent. It was very dark. I was quite pissed. I was probably a bit stoned too so I just jumped into someone else's and spent the night with him!! In the morning I unzipped to realise I was next door to my brothers tent!!

Anne he wittered on talked about tea shops being better in Prague and wanting to film in Venice (because he was asked what he liked most about Prague, and which other European City he'd like to film in)

I'm not entirely sure why we need Tin Hats for that either, but presumably Elk has been having thoughts about one or the other?

What sort of thoughts Elk ?

I do get pg very easily.
Mil says of Dh: you're just like you're father, he only had to drop his trousers.
We did have a termination a long time ago.
I did miscarry between ds1 and ds2.
I chose to be sterilised after ds2 - my diabetic consultant recommended it.

I probably shouldn't have had the 2 I do!! I find parenting a lot harder than I imagined. My mum made it look so easy. But no more!! Despite loving babies.

Well done of them trying to accommodate part time Anne.

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dont want to get into trouble for disobeying rules!

Chaise - we all do our best as has been said. DS3 coincided with DS1 starting school and it was a semi-conscious decision to be around whilst he started school, but I found it difficult to be around them as babies.

On twitter last night someone mentioned a pilot episode of TM and I got mentally excited and ready to run to the tavern with my skirts hitched up and announce a massive group watch - but alas it turns out episode 1 of season 1 was the pilot.

Oh - yes. Excellent news Anne - hope the job will be more bearable part time, and fingers crossed for the interview next week.

Lyndie - you off on hols today? Do lots of relaxing and chilling out...