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If you were on a crowded TUBE train and were asked to get up for a child that was about to faint......would you do it?

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RTKangaMummy · 06/11/2006 13:18

This morning we took Kangaboy to hospital to see Electrocardiophysiologists

He fainted last night and this morning was still unstable and wobbly

Anyway when we got on the tube train to go to Hospital it was packed and people were standing

After about 15 minutes of standing luckily someone got off and kangaboy was able to sit down

But before that he was as white as a sheet and he said he thought he was going to faint

IT was a fast train and so didn't stop at any stations - ie we couldn't get off.

So how would you feel if you were asked to get up for an 11 year old to sit down - cos he was about to faint???

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ruty · 06/11/2006 15:33

glad the ecg was ok. good luck with the eeg.

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 11:26

Thanks guys

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3andnomore · 07/11/2006 12:02

If asked I would get up, but like others mentioned, if not asked probably wouldn't notice
As for who to ask, the nearest person by, unless obvioulsy in one of those mentioned categories...!
And hope the investigations will go well for your Boy....has he ever had probs like this before?

Quootiepie · 07/11/2006 12:04

Id get up.

People are very rude though, I was travelling to Wales by train at 39 weeks, and not one person offered their seat. I ended up on the floor beside the WC.

NotQuiteCockney · 07/11/2006 12:06

DH used to ask people to get up for me when I was very pg and worn out. The rule we had was to always ask a few people, iyswim - say it to a few seats. Because of course people can look totally fit and healthy but actually be in a bad way for whatever reason. Somebody always got up.

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 12:10

Yes

he had faint + convulsion - 2 years ago

and then another one last year

here is the 1st time

here is the 2nd time

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Stargazer · 07/11/2006 12:11

Yes!

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 12:13

Thanks guys for your help and advice

Quootiepie Blimey

NQC that is a good idea to ask a collection of seats

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ShowOfHands · 07/11/2006 12:19

I'm currently 13wks pg and have taken to fainting on the bus (an hour's journey to work, no room to sit when I get on). After badly cracking my head last time I have resorted to asking for a seat for the last four days The results: once I was told to 'f*ck off' by an 18ish year old, once I was ignored/tutted at and had to ask somebody else and twice half the bus leapt up to offer me a seat. People are funny.

misdee · 07/11/2006 12:21

if you directed that question at me and dh, i would get up, but say no to dh getting up. (pre-vad)

3andnomore · 07/11/2006 12:28

HI again RTKM...I didn't read the whole threads you posted the links, too, as a bit short of time right now...but he was tested for epilepsy I assume...
Anyway,if it isn't epilepsy then maybe there is somehting on the following website that might ring any bells with you!
Stars website

NAB3 · 07/11/2006 12:30

I would get up and give him my seat.

nuttygirl · 07/11/2006 16:50

RTKM - I hope your son is ok. I too assume he has been tested for epilepsy. Just waqnted to say that I used to have blackout fits/fainting when I was younger. It happened fromabout 18mths to 14yrs...test for epilepsy was -ve. However it turned out I was hyperventilating without realising. Apparently it's not that uncommon and most children grow out of it. Certain things brought on an attack such as pain or feeling hot. I don't know if this is what your DC has but I thought it might be reassuring to know that there are conditions out there which aren't as serious as epilepsy. I know it's worrying for you as a parent, hoping the test results are all fine. (((((hugs))))))

Snowstorm · 07/11/2006 17:07

I would get up without hesitation if asked (if I hadn't noticed). If you need a seat on the tube then you have to be prepared to ask (nearest fit looking person who's not old/pregnant, as mentioned below).

I had a sprained ankle once and was limping. The tube was packed and I stood on one foot the whole way home (about 20 minutes on the Norther Line - hmmm, nice!) because it hurt to put weight on it but I was feeling bullish and was curious to see if anyone would say anything - nobody did!! At 36 weeks pregnant I gave up my seat to someone on crutches while everyone else watched ... oh the stories are endless!

A tip to anyone who's newly pregnant and feeling dreadful on a packed tube. Squat down (holding on to one of the poles so that you don't go splat) in the middle of a carriage and kind of put your head down towards your knees a bit with your eyes closed (optional extra is to put your hand over your mouth like you are about to chuck) ... if you can bear the curious glances then I GUARANTEE that someone will offer you a seat as it's just too weird a sight to ignore. I did that several times before my bump became visible. Once my bump got big then I just kept sticking it into their newspaperss until they were forced to look up !

Snowstorm · 07/11/2006 17:08

That'll be the Northern Line ...

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 17:08

Thanks guys

He has had tests from the Electrocardiophysiologists to see if it is his heart - including the Brugada test {which was very scarey as it can cause a cardiac arrest}

And he has had a 24 hour heart monitor fitted

also several ECG traces to test for Long QT etc.

They have all been ok

SO the next thing is for the neurologists to take a look at him

Then he may have an internal ECG fitted which is there for about 3 or 4 months - that will be next summer after the brain tests.

I have looked on the STARS site - thanks - I will show it to DH later after DS is in bed

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Snowstorm · 07/11/2006 17:20

Good luck with the investigations RTKM, it must be horribly worrying for you. Fingers crossed for a good result soon.

Ilovemyboy · 07/11/2006 17:24

I would just have asked - as I did do a few times before I started my maternity leave.

Commuters have mastered the art of spotting pregnant women/old people etc and fall asleep as soon as their eyes hit you or stick their heads behind their free papers.

If you asked someone and they refused, I would make a song and dance about it and make them look shit.

I remember a couple of weeks ago when I was 36 weeks pregnant, I was stood waiting for someone to give me a seat but everyone was engrossed in their papers. Someone stood up to get off and a man walked around me and sat in that seat. A woman took pity on me and offered to give me her seat and I refused saying that I wanted the seat that the cheeky man who had seen that I was pregnant had parked his lazy arse on. Needless to say he got up.

Glad I don't have to do Tube journeys for a while...

Ilovemyboy · 07/11/2006 17:25

Oh and I hope everything goes well with your son. xxxx

FioFio · 07/11/2006 17:30

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 23:34

Thanks guys

No, we went to Royal Brompton Hospital, South Kensington

I am soooooo glad I don't travel on the tube very often, it was completely empty when we came home @ lunchtime

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 07/11/2006 23:39

Oh lord the dreaded northern line.....

I usually offer my seat to parents with children anyway, unless I have been pg or with my children. You just gotta ask sometimes. Its amazing how invisible you can become when ill, or pg and on crutches.

Hope Kangaboy is okay.

cowmad · 07/11/2006 23:48

yes,but I dont think i would be asked... i hope i would offer first...
i know i would offer first

so sad for him

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RTKangaMummy · 07/11/2006 23:50

Thanks guys

He has been ok today

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Greensleeves · 07/11/2006 23:52

Yes, of course I would

How awful for you RTKM, I do hope he is all right. xxx

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