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Where can I get a white poppy?

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Ellbell · 01/11/2006 01:27

Some time ago, I used to wear a white poppy (for peace) at this time of year. I haven't seen them for some years now. Does anyone know if they are still produced and where I can get one? Thanks

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TiggernPooh2 · 03/11/2006 21:37

Satine, I could not have put it better myself. I have been with dh for 11 years, 9 of which he has served in the british army and has seen active service recently in Iraq, Afganistan etc etc.

I feel very strongly remembrance sunday should be just that a day of remembrance for those who have died serving their country in wartime. I would never want to disencourage (is that a word?) others from their own viewpoint but feel if you want to wear a white poppy, wear it on another day.

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:07

sorry, but tis has been an ongoing discussion for me and dh (he is in the british army, and is obvioulsy a brit through and through, english at that and I am german...)...is the red poppy, as I assume, just to remember the british. uk dead soldiers in war or all...or no matter what nationality (as dh likes to claim, as in just remebreing all the victoms no matter what?)...
white poppy sounds great but maybe not in that time, iykwim! Am all for it, never to have a war...but I suppose it is against human nayure and survival of the best...but then so is medical advance!!!!!!!!!

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:10

Satine very good post, very good points, and I suppose your viewpoint, as an ex soldier is that the red poppy is for ALL lives lost! Just as my dh's!
I suppose, forme, being german, ad this never been done in germany it doesn't feel as if that is happening, but then I might not know enough about it!

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:12

ooops,

I suppose, from , being german (viewpoint), and this never been done in germany it doesn't feel as if that is happening as in remembreance of anyones life lost in the war no matter which , but then I might not know enough about it!

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:14

do you have no remeberance in germany at all?

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:17

There's a Holocaust memorial day, SEA, but I think a lot of people in Germany don't know/notice it's happening. (Flags are flown half mast and there is usually an official event/act of remembrance). But no day as such to commemorate war dead.

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:19

i wonder how they feel about our rememberance day

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:20

like fit said, not really...but I suppose germany has different memorys, and probably is rather embaressed of some! Even though they should not now be, as it certainly was a lesson for the future which some other countrys continents still have to learn of course!

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:22

that is what I mean, southastastra (sp?0 me (German born well after those wars, lol) and dh 9brit, also born well after the war but in the armed forces)!!!!!!!

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:23

I think there's still so much collective guilt in Germany (though there is a 'hold our heads up high again' faction which veers, IMO, dangerously close to the far right), and awareness that Germany's role in the world wars was so very different to other nations', that most Germans would not have a problem with it. I would very much like to wear a poppy in the coming week, not as a gesture of triumphalism, but because I feel pretty much like Soupy (in her posts further down) on this issue. I can't get hold of one over here though.

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:25

a poppy would be a good sign of peace when we all wear it

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:27

I always find 11 Nov rather weird over here, because in the parts of Germany that celebrate carnival it is the official start of the carnival season. I'm feeling a bit solemn and sombre and around me people are letting their hair down...

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:29

where are you from originally? fit

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:30

leics

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:31

how did you end up in germany?

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:33

Studied German, went on a year abroad, met dh and the rest is history

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:35

i went to germany on an exchange it's a great country! i fell in love with a boy called dieter!

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:36

Come and visit It'd be more fun if you waited till we've moved back to Berlin though - we currently live out in the sticks!

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:42

i went to the black forest, i'll send you some poppies and more posters!

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:43

thanks and now the Xmas markets are starting soon I can respond with some Lebkuchen!

southeastastra · 03/11/2006 22:46

ooh ok, though i haven't a clue what a lebkuchen is sounds nice haha

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:51

lol u 2 and thank god for Lidls...I could not survive without Lebkucken at christmas on the tree and in my tum, lol, and Baumstamm marzipan, yumyum!
Anyways....I didn't really mean so much how german people in germany would feel about anyone wearing a poppy, but more, as in why does dh think I am unpatriotic because I, as a german, feel it would be a betrayal to those that died on our side, not that I would ever stop him or our Kids, all born here, wear one....not sure iykwim!
There is no such thing, as wearing a poppy in germany, but there is rememberance day on a different date ingermany which reflects it, but no poppys!

3andnomore · 03/11/2006 22:52

Oh, and X-mas market I miss the ost! They are just so beautyful and special!

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:53

It's yummy Christmassy cakey stuff basically

foundintranslation · 03/11/2006 22:55

3andnomore - why would he think you are unpatriotic? You're not British.

I wouldn't expect my German dh to join me in wearing a poppy - that said, he probably would, though.

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