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not giving MMR- what do you say to HP's who question you?

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hairymclary · 03/10/2006 23:18

I need a good response. I've done my homework. I know I don't want ds to have it, and we will give him singles.

But for some reason when faced with health professionals asking me if he has had it etc etc I go all stupid and just mumble something anbout not getting round to it yet.

So, what do you say to them?

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colditz · 03/10/2006 23:29

Just say "He is not having it. He is having single vaccinations."

Socci · 03/10/2006 23:53

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QuootieSpookypie · 03/10/2006 23:54

Hijack - are single ones better? im lost with all this MMR stuff...

Socci · 03/10/2006 23:56

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Fauve · 03/10/2006 23:57

It's best to make it very clear that you know what you're doing, otherwise they'll feel obliged to try to persuade you to have the MMR. IME, say as little as possible - don't engage.

Adorabelle · 04/10/2006 00:44

After much debate we decided not to go for single
vaccinations.

if we had of & our decision was questioned I would have simply said 'We believe we are doing the best for our child'

Questioned any further I would repeat said statement & after further questioning would give a very polite 'Mind your own bloody business'

You, and only you can choose what is best for your child, bugger what anyone else thinks

TwigTwoolett · 04/10/2006 06:04

He's not having it. He's having singles instead

If questioned why I launched into "Well DH has HLA B27 genetic marker so obviously you are aware of the family of ......."

seriously by the time you get to the 'etic' in genetic they glaze over wishing they hadn't

that said this was over 5 years ago and we did let DD have MMR .. but fought like wildfire for her not to have DTP (this was before they changed them and there was the whole acellular pertussis issue which is no longer in play)

Furball · 04/10/2006 07:05

We just said we've done abit of thinking about it and decided to go for singles. What can they say? Apart from 'well you know these places aren't giving licenced vaccines blah blah blah' They can't force you to have anything - they only want you to have it to keep their figures up and it also won't be the first time they've heard it.

devondoris · 04/10/2006 08:02

Hi,

I did DD on singles over 2 years. Once I'd made the decision I wasn't really going to any HV clinics anyway, and when we did go they believed me when I said I thought it was important to have the vaccines because we'd already started the singles programme. Admittedly we live very near Totnes so to get people to actually have any kind of vaccine is a good thing down here!

Be strong! Tell them that's what you're doing and get it written in the red book and tell them when the appointments are. I think the more sensible you are about informing the HPs of what you're doing the better they accept that you may not be doing accepted practice but you are doing what needs to be done. Remember it's your decision as a parent to do what you feel is right for your child. HPs can only guide and recommend.

Tinkerbel5 · 04/10/2006 13:02

hairy you dont have to explain your reasons, my DD has had the single vaccines and the nurse at my surgery then asked me to sign a release form that I wasnt going ahead with the MMR, so that the GP could still get his bonus

makes you wonder in who's best interest this MMR is, cause in my school days there were only single vaccines

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hairymclary · 04/10/2006 21:51

I get all scared when faced with people in authority lol
will try and be brave next time and I really must actually get him booked in for the singles.

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cowmad · 04/10/2006 22:03

dosnt it take an age tho to administer the singles or do you have it all at once?just singly(?)
and if at seperate times dosnt it then take ages to build up the immunity?
sure i remember my hv telling me it took something like a year to get to the same level of immunity as a child thats been given the combined...
understand tho that the hv has an interest in giving the combined
all the same tho are you sure its not a bit irresponsible after all there is no proof just assumptions and guessings

cowmad · 04/10/2006 22:06

however a swift get stuffed should sort out a hv I`ll do it if you like!!

Socci · 04/10/2006 22:09

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FourJays · 04/10/2006 22:12

You say that you have looked into it and done your research and you are looking out for your child. Thank you very much for asking.

willowcatkin · 04/10/2006 23:18

Singles are definately more effective, particulalry measles - the reason thay goive kids a pre school booster for MMR is becasue it is not effective. if you have singles you only need the one.

I get lectured every year as my kids get flu jab (asthma) and they have only had measles.

the advice i had was that boys should have mumps at age 7 as the imunity is only about 7 years and that covers the vital puberty period, so ds has not had it yet. if they get actual mumps before, great, they have lifellong immunity and the major danger is at puberty or later.

similarly dd will have rubella at about age 11, like I did.

Stick with your decision but do get the singles booked in if that is what you have decided to do.

have you tried getting your dp to tell the HP of your decisions, or written a letetr so hopefully they will leave you alone in future?

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hairymclary · 04/10/2006 23:23

ahh that';s interesting about the immunity as that is something i've wondered about.
makes it cheaper for the time being too

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harpsichordcarrion · 04/10/2006 23:26

hairymclary, in a different context I recommend saying "I have discussed it with my dh/dp and we have decided X."
then you can repeat that as many times as you like.
it closes off the discussion and places some of the decision making with someone who isn't in the room.
if you feel pretty pressed you can say, well thanks for your input I will discuss it with my partner.

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hairymclary · 04/10/2006 23:30

you're all right you know, i don't have to justify anything to any of them.
it's odd, i still feel like a kid sometimes and i['m scared of getting in trouble lol

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Jimjams2 · 04/10/2006 23:30

ON ds2's school record I wrote across the the bot for jabs "none given on mdeical adivce, vaccine damaged sibling"

Haven't been challeneged yet

TBH my surgery have been entirely reasonable. My GP aslked for a letter to keep ther PCT off his back which I was happy to provice. Since then nothing, no reminders - and when they ring up to book chekcs they say "don't worry we don't want to vaccinate them".

I jst sayy "no he's not getting it" - then don't discuss.

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hairymclary · 04/10/2006 23:33

i think i have been spoiled. My last surgery just didn't seem to care. I had 3 appts sent through which i didn't go to and all they did was send me a leaflet through the post.

Unfortunately I have just registered at a new one and they seem far more "on the ball" as it were. I even had a home visit frm the HV!!!! shame i was out

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threebob · 05/10/2006 04:18

"he hasn't had MMR"

and then shut up - wait for them to ask their next question. You don't have to give a reason.

If their next question is "why?" then again simple and matter of fact

"he's having singles"

and then shut up again.

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