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Housing benefit and rooms allowed when having kids overnight

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nutcracker · 15/09/2006 16:50

Have just spotted and ad for a 2 bed house which will accept dss. Haven't told P yet as he has gone out but the thing is the rent is £550 a month which is quite dear for the size of property and area.

I can see him discounting it before he has even thought about it.

He will be on incapacity benefit or jobseekers so will be entitled to housing benefit but would he get full rent paid and would they allow him a 2 bed if he was having the kids overnight at least once a week ??

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FillyjonktheBananaEater · 16/09/2006 08:28

oh and he would only get rent to cover the 1 bed flat if the council consdiered the landlord to be charging a reasonable rent.

If there is genuinely absolutely nowhere else in the city which a. accepts dss and b. has only one room then he might have a case for a DHP...but bear in mind that the council expects even those it has a duty of care to house to spend time in vile vile hostels.

livelife · 16/09/2006 10:18

hi fillyjonkthebananaeater (cool name - explain?) can i ask q pls. I am on hb and have 3 bed for me and 4 kids at £950. they say i can have 4 bed at £1250 so thats cool but there's nothing for less than £1450. so if i find somewhere would i have to pay 200 myself? just not possible . Also, soz to be pain but, if I have dp, who has his own flat elsewhere, to stay overnight how many nights per week can he stay without it affecting me?

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 16/09/2006 11:06

ah livelife...I am really reluctant to be giving advice, just cos my knowlege is about a year out of date...am happy to tell you what I think but please double check, ok?

ok, the figure they have given you is almost certainly a guide. Part of their job is to be monitoring the housing market locally. And then deciding from this how much one could reasonably expect to pay for a flat (and then knocking a whack off, I reckon) Note that you have some scope to argue that you need to live in a particular area, and proximety to schools is a particularly good argument round here.

But also, as I said, landlords do sometimes drop the price after the council does a pre-tenancy determination, especially those catering to dss.

re dp, there are no hard and fast rules, the issue is whether he is seen to be "cohabiting" with you and thus his income ought to be taken into account/ have his own hb (and ctb!) stopped. Its a tricky one. The odd overnight stay is fine, 3/7 nights every week and I'd say you are pushing it...but there's other things as well...Its actually possible, technically, to get hb for a couple living together who maintain seperate households (eg seperate kitchen/living/bedroom arrangements-sharing a kitchen but not meals, that sort of thing. Very very tricky to argue though, mainly used ime in domestic violence situations).

Does that help? There is a CAB adviceguide somewhere...it doesn't have as much information as a CAB volunteer but I recall good feedback from clients on it. Hang on...

ps fillyjonk is after the moomintrol character, who like me secretly likes chaos, and banana eater is because I have been eating too many banana of late...I am a complusive name adjuster...

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 16/09/2006 11:07

CAB adviceguide

livelife · 16/09/2006 16:26

Thanks for that, it is helpful - really appreciate it x

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