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Mothers buy chips to get around schools healthy eating

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Blandmum · 15/09/2006 15:49

I have just heard in the radio that some mothesr have been boycoting a schools healthy food initiative.

They have been taking orders from the kids, going to the local chippy, and taking food trollys of junk food round to the children at lunch time.

Oh FFS!

Taking out of the equation those small numbers of children who have special needs issues with food, what the fuck do these women think that they are doing?

How do they think this will help the children or the school?

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2shoes · 17/09/2006 11:40

i think I am now agreeing with greensleeves as this is getting to look like that

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Blandmum · 17/09/2006 11:45

I read that in NI they are having to pay £1,000,000 for constipation clinics for children. This is mostly due to dietary issues.

I have every sympathy for parents whio's children eat well and are still constipated....my dd was like that. Ironicaly her brother m, who had a more limited diet, never had this problem.

We are now in the situation where we are having to spend a million poiunds because kids are impacted with crap because they don't eat enough roughage.

FFS, this makes it eveyone's problem.

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MissChief · 17/09/2006 11:49

exactly! Fedup, tbh of having to say of course for SN kids it's different, doesn't apply (yes, sure in some cases it doesn't) But as said before, crappy food fuels ADHD to name but one, however much in denial their parents may be.
The NHS can't get enough paediatric dietitians due to a huge surge in demand for their services over the past few yrs. When I spoke to one, she said most of the problems she saw (and they were major - obese infants already saddled with diabetes type 2 for instance) were caused solely by a poor diet.

Jimjams2 · 17/09/2006 12:13

Oh I'd really better not post on this.

The world of mumsnet is so f*** black and white. Try the real world sometimes. You may find it interesting.

FluffyCharlotteCorday · 17/09/2006 12:18

Why d'you say that JJ? I think these threads haven't been black and white. There's loads of acknowledgement that food issues aren't all black and white, that there are special circs, SN, food deserts, education etc. They've been rather less black and white than usual, imo.

juuule · 17/09/2006 12:20

It is sometimes difficult to know what the 'crap' food is though. One of my children becomes badly constipated - the culprit was cows milk. Low-sugar drinks full of aspartame. It's a minefield.

MissChief · 17/09/2006 12:23

and isn't it the real world we're interested in/worried about here?
Rather than the "F off you're not telling me how to look after my kids" brigade who AREN'T in the real world as they don't see how their behaviour towards their kids can affect all of us.
BTW, i'm not saying this to you jimjams, but it's a frequent defence on here.

FluffyCharlotteCorday · 17/09/2006 12:25

My aunt insists on giving my kids these aspartame-filled cordials. "No sugar in it love" she says brightly. To which I smile wanly and feel like a fanatic. While cursing the multi-nationals who mislead people who are doing their best, into buying crap.

MissChief · 17/09/2006 12:28

it's the same with calpol, isnt' it? always "sugar-free", damn nr impossible to get the one w/o sweetner. Better sugar imo!

GeorginaA · 17/09/2006 13:06

Sugar free is the thing that winds me up the most too - mainly because aspartame can trigger my asthma. And from what I've read up on, I'm certainly not the only one by a long chalk...

Blu · 17/09/2006 13:08

eh? Are they hurling bottles of sugar-free calpol over the fence now?
It's going to end in tears, someone will get hurt....

GeorginaA · 17/09/2006 13:11

I think it's what's known in the trade as "thread drift", Blu

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Blandmum · 17/09/2006 13:13

Jimjams, most of us have been posting that it is different for children with SN food issues. MThe very first post on this thread did just that

But for NT kids this isn't a big deal, parenst are just pandering to their over cosseted kids

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blondehelen · 17/09/2006 13:14

haven't read the whole thread, but this morning my dd asked if she could have a kiwi and my niece who is 9 didn't know what a kiwi was!! Hmmm, might mention that to SIL when she picks her up later.

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 17/09/2006 13:16

I think it's been acknowledged many times on this thread that there are special circumstances. My dd was weaned on choc buttons and quavers, for just those sorts of reasons - I kid you not!

However, if these mothers want to feed their kids chip-shop chips every day, then they can please themselves. The issue for me is them taking orders from other children; children whose parents think they're giving them money for a decent school meal. And if the mothers aren't happy - why not be revolutionary and actually speak to the school in a civilised manner instead of undermining them? Oh and in the meantime - throw a lunch box together.

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Blandmum · 17/09/2006 13:19

well, I think it also matters to the teachers in the school

Two reasons.

A. The kids will not behave as well because they are eating crap food
B. The parents are basicaly showing the kids that you don't have to do what the school says, you can do what you damn well want.

Neither is helpful to the staff in terms of getting the kids to learn.

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Blondilocks · 17/09/2006 13:19

I do sometimes wonder about the point of campaigns such as this as the parents who want their children to eat well will feed them well do so whether they r told to or not & the rest will do what they please anyway.

It sounds like the kind of rebellion a naughty child might do when told to do something - i.e. to do the complete opposite.

redbull · 17/09/2006 13:21

for what its worth before i have 2 qulifications
NVQ 2 in child care and NVQ 3 in child care before i had ds i was working in a nursery and was in charge of the childs link (after school care)there were some very picky eaters but not once was their behaviour down to their food, bad parenting yes boredom yes plain naughtyness yes but i dont think you can blame food on it all, when i was at school we just didnt want to be there and there were several cases of puils atacking teachers then there was no such thing as redbull and i know for a fact that half the kids were on drugs.

Thankyou 2shoes, my dp is very strong in his beliefs and also gets carried away when he types, its not his loss if you cant be bothered to read what he has written its your loss as my dp has some very important,it was still wrong what people have said about his typing maybe you all should learn some manners before preaching about food and if you force feed these kids dont you think you will making more of an issue for food for them just ask any one with an eating dissorder.

juuule · 17/09/2006 13:24

Definitely got a point, Redbull.

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Blandmum · 17/09/2006 13:29

I don't think that you can put all the blame on food either, but you can put some of it.

Ignoring one issue doesn't make any of the porblems go away.

Preventing children from taking in excess e numbers in fizzy drinks has improved behaviour in the school where I work.

It has had the greatest impact on some children with ADHA, one of whom used to go almost wild if he drank blue panda pops, which he used to most lunch times.

You can just imagine what this did to the girl with ASD who was in his class.

Since his behavior improved , he left school with at least 2 grade C GCSEs, something would would have been impossible to imagine in the 'Panda' pop days

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saggarmakersbottomknocker · 17/09/2006 13:32

No-one is talking about force-feeding kids redbull. It's about helping them to make the right choices. Isn't that our job? And chips everyday isn't the right choice surely?

I'm one of the most easy-going people you could meet with regard to food - I've had to be - but this gets even my back up.

Blu · 17/09/2006 13:35

I completely agree with your point B MB.

Every morning I watch two sets of parents park on the ZigZags, directly in front of the 'No Stopping' notice, to take their kids into school.
It's so unfair to encourage children into ignoring school rules, so that they then spend their whole time in trouble

Back to kittyWits 'we can do what we like' post!

redbull · 17/09/2006 13:42

sorry but you are all force feeding your kids you have gave them no choice in what they want to eat and to me that is really sad, from the age of 2 up to 16 i ate nothing except for chips,ham,chicken and burgers then as i got older i tried new foods and i liked them if my mom tried to force food on me it made me worse i was taken to the doctors and was told if i didnt start eating i would have to be force fed through tubes in hospital, what im trying to say if you make an issue with food then your kids will pick up on that.

Cant be arsed with this thread anymore got better things to do like cook ds some ships in lard

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 17/09/2006 13:44

"ships in lard?"

Good grief.

No, thats one choice I don't give my kids.

GeorginaA · 17/09/2006 13:44

You know what I seriously think we need in this country?

More cookery books and cookery programmes aimed at "normal" fresh and unadulterated food. Not things that take hours, cost a fortune, take ages to shop for because no bugger stocks half the stuff and uses every single pan and utensil you own.

I mean for gods sake - we managed in the war didn't we? Good cookery yonks ago was making do with what you had, getting the most out of cheap cuts, ekeing (sp?) out the money as far as it would go. Why does "cookery" have to mean spending as much money as possible on a single ingredient these days?!

No wonder people not confident in the kitchen and/or on an extremely tight budget end up writing the whole lot off as poncy rubbish.

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