How DO you make men understand..

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So glad I found this thread, dh has been downloading CDs onto his iPod and the spare room is just full of little piles of them that he never gets round to putting away. Ditto receipts, they are everywhere and a pile of stuff for decorating (including ladders) which he says he can't put away yet (presumably because the shed is also full of the rubbish he is keeping). Our spare room is the second largest bedroom in the house (was supposed to be for guests) and I would dearly love dd to have it as her bedroom and turn the nursery into a little tidy (sigh!) study where I can Mumsnet in peace . No joy as yet, any tips greatfully received .

LOL MrsDoolittle and vivat. Oh, yes, and he also has many a pair of holey boxers.

Bagpuss30, we have just turned our old nursery into "Mummys office" The painting is almost finished and I bought curtains this weekend. I have done it in lilac and mauve as I needed a girly space amongst all the boys stuff (I have dh, ds1, ds2 and a male cat at home!)

Can't recommend it highly enough. We were in there at the weekend measuring and we can fit in a single chair bed (Ikea do one for £89). I was fed up having my spare bedroom unused apart from 5 or 6 weekends a year when my MIL will stay. This way she can sleep in the office when she's here and my boys have both got decent sized bedrooms now (we're in the loft converstion).

Kayleigh, I'm so envious - lilac is the colour I would do my office too .

Bagpuss30, can't you persuade your dh with the reasoning that your dd will need more space in her own home than the odd visitor (Sorry, I am not presuming your visitors are strange )

Haven't read this whole thread but what i often do is tidy things into drawers and i don't do it on purpose but i can never remember where they are when he asks, so i think he now tends to keep things out of my way

I suppose in a way I am lucky in that (aside from the piles of receipts and the unopened mail) my dp has largely confined himself to the loft extension......I do remember lugging the hoover up the loft ladder at 8 months pg because I couldn't bear the sight of the floor any longer.....Anyway room is full of PC's, letters, books, a scalectric (sp?) and the travel cot (to bung ds in....) I keep saying when stuff comes cascading down the ladder I'll know its time to tidy up!
Ditto the holes in the boxers....how? why?

Ooh, maybe we could have a loft conversion too and then all the rubbish, sorry, important man/computer stuff could go up there? Then we would have enough bedrooms for three children .

Kayleigh, actually, odd would be a good description of our visitors. The room has been used twice in just over two years. Nobody wants to come and see us now that we have children so I can't really see the point any more. Dh is already aware of what I would like to do with the room but can't be bothered with the re-decoration of two bedrooms .

When I moved in with dh, he cleared out ONE DRAWER for my clothes. He has so many T shirts that he cannot bear to throw away that they have now achieved critical mass. I've had to resort to secretly throwing some away and banning him from buying any more.

Last year I finally managed to clear away a cardboard box of books that had been sitting, untouched since he moved in.