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Can you do me a favour please and read this and tell me what you think.....

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TambaTheDragonSlayer · 11/08/2006 17:09

Not looking for spelling corrections etc. Just a general sense of is it amusing / sad, how does it make you feel? Why do you think the person writing it reacted as she did? Is this typical of a teenage girl? Does the mans age factor into it? that sort of stuff. Thank you.

I was 15 and he was older at about 26, he looked alot like David Beckham although I think DB would have beat him in a quiz anyday! I wasnt intrested in his intellect though.... I met him in a little village place that I used to visit on weekends, my best friend at the time lives over there and he was her next door neighbour. There was a group of us that used to go and visit, and of course we all had our eye on Mr DB lookylikey... and so the competetion began!

Oh we were childish, we vied for his attention, I even pretended to like football and went with him on a trip to visit his daughter at a contact centre. He was only intrested in Jody though. We couldnt understand why at the time, what was so special about her? Maybe looking back, it was because she was there less often so didnt make a fool of herself quite so much. Eventually though, my chance came! My mom, for the very first time would be leaving me in the house for a couple of nights alone, being a typical teenage my first thought was of parties and boys and of getting Mr DB lookylikey on his own. It worked, sort of. He turned up with his friend Jon who was at the time seeing my best friend (the village one -are you keeping up?) One couple and a single male and female, well anyone can do the maths cant they! It wasnt to be though, a group of our other friends turned up and the lads were way out numbered by us hormonal 'desperate to be grown up' girls. Fortunatly for me though, (not so fortunatly for her!) Jodys auntie was taken ill and she was stuck at the hospital in supportive mode. She knew though, that her not being there would blow her chances, and she called a few times under the pretence of seeing how things were going. Im not sure if it my memory playing tricks on me, guilt or if its fact but i remember her saying "Dont do anything with him...." As if i would....

We spent the night drinking cheap cider and smoking in the house! what a novelty! There was no ashtrays in the place though as my mom was very much anti-smoking (and even now, she doesnt know im a smoker!) we used half empty glasses and coke cans and anything else that would make do. We bought quilts down and made beds on the floor. We thought we were great! But no luck with Mr DB lookylikey. He just didnt like me. I wasnt 'fashionable' I was a sweatshirt and jeans type person, wouldnt dream of wearing make-up and had BRACES - social death!! My chance finally came when after a small disagrement he stomped off to my moms room for some peace and quiet. I gave him and hour and then decided to go and see if he was 'ok' I knew though, that coming back down stairs without achiening my goal would be humilating as they all knew my intentions. I couldnt fail at all costs....

He was asleep in my moms bed. I stood there for a minute not knowing what to do - after all what was the pre-sex etticate? What do you say? Lights on or off? Did i look ok? Were my boobs big enough? had I shaved my legs? As all this was running through my mind, he woke up and glared at me. I could almost read his mind and he was thinking "Not you, anyone but you...." but I was on a mission and feeling brave got into the bed. Then I got scared! After all my shallow thoughts about prickly legs and tiny boobs i realised that it might hurt. And how would I know what to do? Was I supposed to touch 'it'? I was spared the worry though when he kissed me, i felt his tongue slide into my mouth and he tasted of sleep. My first though was oh my god hes kissing me! swiftly followed by 'oh fuck that hurts' and that was it - it was all over, it didnt seem that any time had passed, and i hadnt moved even a little - I still had my clothes on, although my knickers were tucked slighty to the side. But I was grown up now! And I had my man! I was officially the winner! Or so i thought until a few minutes later when I heard laughter coming from downstairs. Walking was uncomfortable, and that John Wayne joke passed through my mind as i edged down the stairs trying to hear what was being said.

I took deep breathes before walking into the living room, I knew i was blushing and I knew that they were laughing at me - but what had I done wrong? Did it not feel good for him? Was I too ugly? I some found out when I heard him saying in a voice that was meant to be overheard...."Fucking hell, shes like a sack of potatoes...." Ah, so I had done it wrong then. Playing it cool, as teenage girls do, i laughed along when really I was crying inside. I was run a bath by someone and was relieved to escape to soak in it. It stung. I couldnt work out why people enjoyed sex so much if this was what it felt like. Although humilated and sore I still felt a certain sense of pride. I was no longer a virgin! I was a grown-up, a woman and no one was going to take that away from me. I ignored the looks and the sly comments, I had an attitude and wasnt afraid to let it show. I had 'won' although in all truth it felt like a pretty sad victory....

Jody found out, of course and was rightly angry with me. Although she hadnt been seeing him we all knew she wanted to and that made him 'off-limits' but in the selfish world of a 15 year old friendships were fickle and I had never liked her much anyway.... and as for Mr DB lookylikey, well I was just the first, he made his way around us all over the next few months and although I felt somewhat disgruntled at him using us like his personal harem, I was often heard saying 'well at least i wasnt sloppy seconds...'

Why is losing our viginity so important to us? Does it make us better people? help us climb the social ladder? Give us a sense of adulthood? No, I dont think it does. Looking back, to me, it seemed important because 'everyone else was doing it' but I never found out who the 'everyones' were, they didnt exsist in our confinded teenage circle. Oh there were the girls at school that everyone knew had sex, and everyone secretly envied, and now I was elevated to their group, but I couldnt help wondering if they all felt the same way I did, disappointed, used and slightly grubby. But, no, I reasoned with myself - I had just done it wrong. Had let him down, and was obviously never going to get a man unless I improved my skills....

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 12/08/2006 15:26

What do you tell a young girl though, about not rushing to become "a woman"? What they think makes them a woman, what they think makes them a woman in a boys eyes?

WRT to the boys....how should their view be shaped as to what makes a girl a "woman"?

Society (?) seems to want to rush to every milestone of age and maturity, like its a race to be won.

Crystaltips · 12/08/2006 15:28

perhaps that losing your virginity won't make you ...

  • .. feel any better
  • .. repected
  • .. liked more by boys
VeniVidiVickiQV · 12/08/2006 15:34

Well, yes indeed. But what gives them that perception in the first place though? I mean, how do they come to thinking that they may be more respected for losing their virginity?

TambaTheDragonSlayer · 12/08/2006 15:44

Cyrstal Tips,

When its finished, my local school will be copying it and handing it out to the teenagers (well still in early stages but from talks with my old teacher looks likely - she did say id have to correct the spellings or she would go through it with a red pen lol)

If all goes well and its half decent will email it to you for your DD. Its basically old diaries of a teenage girl (me) turned into a little journal type thing which will hopefully make someone think twice about makingt he same mistakes I did.

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jofeb04 · 12/08/2006 15:49

Tamba,
that story could have been about me really.

My first was a "mate". That was all. Nothing special, and its something I really regret.

Why did we do it? Well, at the time it was a cause of why not. We were good mates, and surprisinly we were mates for a long time afterwards as well, but it was never the same. He was 3years older than me.

CarolinaMao · 12/08/2006 16:04

Christ, that rings a lot of bells .

Mine was 19 (I was 15 too) and it wasn't so 'public', but otherwise v v similar motivations and feelings, esp re so-called best mate.

I think it's a great idea to try and use it in a school. It's so hard to get any perspective on your actions at that age, I suppose because you've got no experience to compare with - maybe this will help.

Dior · 12/08/2006 16:12

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dmo · 12/08/2006 16:14

i neaver got into the 'group'
my first boyfriend was my dh when i was 19
first had sex 6mths later
had ds 9 mths after that
didnt have a mum so just dad and 2 brothers since i was 6 so dad skipped girl talk

VeniVidiVickiQV · 12/08/2006 16:15

I would be really interested to know just how many girls lost their virginity, having not consented.

From what i have read on MN in the past, there are an alarming number that didnt actually want to have sex in the first place but couldnt say no, didnt know how to say no, or they did say no and were just ignored.

liquidclocks · 12/08/2006 16:33

Tamba - have been lurking since you posted this as wasn't sure how it made me feel really. I'd be really interested to read the finished product though - I hope you'll post when you're done and we can read it I really think things like this will have more of an impact than anything we say to our kids.

Hollyboo · 12/08/2006 16:39

I think all women can relate to feeling very insecure about the whole sex thing when they were teenagers. Worrying that all your friends will lose their virginity before you. My dd is only 8 months and I worry about what it will be like when she's a teenager. Girls seem to be in such a hurry to grow up now and it's not just clothes, it's sex as well.

TambaTheDragonSlayer · 12/08/2006 19:22

Thanks for your comments I really appreciate them.

Liquidclocks, I doubt I will post it on here as its really quite long and so so personal to me, and people here know me in RL But will be posting bits of it from time to time as I would value your opinions seeing as its going to be shown to impressionable teenagers and i dont want to give the wrong message out.

It was actually recommended for me to do by a cousellor I saw after an incident a few years ago, and i think its the best bit of advice I could have been given as its helped immesnsly.

Umm also might send it to one of the MN pendants, cause as you can see my spelling stinks

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gothicmama · 12/08/2006 19:32

Tamba well done on writing your journal - I think your experience is so similar to alot of teenage girls - it is so sad that sort of bollox happened 10 years from my own bitteresweet experience and still happens and that at 15 you buy in to it all - in a way it seems to becoing a rite of passage I to will be bookmarking this for dd cos it 's so much cooler it not coming from mum's past but it beautifully sums up the whole process

TambaTheDragonSlayer · 12/08/2006 21:18

Thanks GM

I really appreciate your comments xxx

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liquidclocks · 13/08/2006 10:29

I think it will make an impression on enoguh young girls to make it worth your while Tamba, and I really hope you find it a cathartic process. I understand why you wouldn't want to post if you have RL friends on here too and aren't ready to share all - luckily (so far) I have the advantage of relative anonimity! (ie my RL friends seem to spend time with their kids instead of all day on MN )

TambaTheDragonSlayer · 13/08/2006 13:03

Thank LC

My one problem with it atm is that its not showing me in a very good light and I have to keep reminding myself that I was young and impressionable and immature.

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ilovecaboose · 13/08/2006 13:12

Just have to say it sounds very similar to experiences me and my friends went through - not just once, but several times .

I know myself and others but ourselves into dangerous situations when we were younger cos of feelings like this and a few of us paid quite heavily for it.

If I ever have a girl I want her to know things like this so that she never does similar.

Publishing it as a book to give out at a secondary school sounds like a very very good idea to me. Getting the idea accross in a way that may well work. The sex education talks and 'respecting' yourself talks never worked on me, being given by those a lot older who I saw as never having similar thoughts/feelings. This explains it in a way I never could.

TambaTheDragonSlayer · 13/08/2006 13:31

You would think we'd have learnt after the first time wouldnt you? Although, like you caboose, it was something that I repeated ad nausem to the point of even missing my GCSE exam as I decided it was much more important and would make me oh so cool among my friends to 'not care' about stuff like that and spend it doing something exciting (and bloody dangerous) like being in some lads loft smoking. I learnt my lesson though eventually. got myself in a situation i couldnt control.

I am glad I have boys! although ive often wondered whether they go through the same sort of thing - peer pressure ands insecurities. I might ask around for a male 'voice' to add to it although I think it will be difficult to find someone who would be willing to open up so much.

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TambaTheDragonSlayer · 13/08/2006 23:23

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FloatingOnTheMed · 14/08/2006 00:50

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hovely · 14/08/2006 21:33

yes, it strikes a lot of chords with me
reminds me of situations my friends and I got into, things we did or failed to avoid, bad choices we made.
all connected with wanting to be popular/liked/accepted.
thank god it didn't end too badly for any of us.
I fear for my dd that she is growing up in a world where the popular perception of girls' sexuality is even more twisted than in the '70s-'80s when I was a teenager.
ie supposedly girls want false tits and to be sexually aggressive and to laugh about pictures of naked women in Zoo magazine because it's "ironic".
then I read about 11 year olds feeling obliged to give blowjobs to boys in their 'gang' of friends, not even their boyfriends.
I worry that it will be even harder for her to have self respect than it was for us.
I think your writing can really help girls to think about these things Tamba.

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