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Grammar! Punctuation! Hellllllp!

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motherinferior · 11/03/2004 14:33

I'm editing something about stereotypes.
The text says, 'Some popular stereotypes of [this group]include the idea that they are [adjective]'

Now, that's wrong, isn't it. But is the stereotype a PICTURE of someone who is [adjective]? Or someone who is [adjective]?

Am going up own bottom and would appreciate pedantic assistance.

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oliveoil · 11/03/2004 14:36

I have read that twice and have no idea what you are on about. Will read again and see if brain clears.

oliveoil · 11/03/2004 14:38

Sorry, am thick. Await someone who is cleverer (is that a word?) to explain.

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ks · 11/03/2004 14:38

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Marina · 11/03/2004 14:40

picture/representation, I'd have said. And I'd say "promote" or "promulgate" or something like that, rather than "include", based only on your snippet here, mind...
You need ks!

Marina · 11/03/2004 14:41

she's on the case. posts crossed ks!

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:43

I don't think you need the "some" at the start.

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:44

And "image" rather than "idea"?

ks · 11/03/2004 14:47

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kiwisbird · 11/03/2004 14:49

a perception, this is interchangeable too

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:50

"One of the popular stereotypes of xxx is that they are xxx" - ???

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:51

Or "appear to be xxx"

ks · 11/03/2004 14:51

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Janh · 11/03/2004 14:51

Go on then, MI, who are we trying to stereotype?

motherinferior · 11/03/2004 14:52

Sorry, I was trying not to give too much away. Stupidly.

I've reworked it provisionally as

Some popular stereotypes of people with experience of mental distress [that's the house style for this organisation] include ?dangerous and unpredictable?, ?never going to recover? and ?not able to make decisions for themselves?.

But should I perchance change this to
Some...include 'danger and unpredictability' etc?

Ie should I apply abstract nouns rather than adjectives?

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Janh · 11/03/2004 14:54

I think stereotypes is wrong - misapprehensions maybe.

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:55

And common rather than popular.

motherinferior · 11/03/2004 14:55

And I have to stick with stereotypes because that's part of the original text. Which I didn't write. And now I'm on prejudice, the next step...

My life is so glamorous.

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Tinker · 11/03/2004 14:57

'with experience of metal illness' - do you mean all people with experience (carers and sufferers) or just sufferers?

Janh · 11/03/2004 14:59

It is, isn't it - I was just thinking that!

motherinferior · 11/03/2004 15:02

Sufferers big no-no, Tinker. Nonono. Would get buttons snipped off, and worse, for using term. Don't know about carers. Good point. OTOH not my job to rewrite their house style.

Sooooo glamorous.

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Tinker · 11/03/2004 15:10

mi. Just confused as to what 'experience of...' meant. Could be everyone?

Anyway, my job is more glamourous than yours - get to wear safety goggles in chemical factories

Janh · 11/03/2004 15:12

Tinker, do you have pictures?

Tinker · 11/03/2004 15:18

Sadly no jan

Issymum · 11/03/2004 16:30

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motherinferior · 11/03/2004 19:01

Issymum, I completely agree that's a better sentence; unfortunately the whole section I'm editing refers to stereotypes as a specific social phenomenon. I didn't write it!

I am MUCH more dangerous than you. Or possibly not. I'm far too unpredictable to tell

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