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Senora, hat, Mrs Badger and other grammarians- remind me about less than/fewer

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ScummyMummy2Lenin · 09/08/2006 06:43

It is "less than 2% of the sample", isn't it?

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yummummy · 09/08/2006 07:01

hi
the rule is:
"less than an amount, fewer than a number"
eg fewer than 50 people voted.. but use less sugar in your cakes
so less is correct in this case
hope this is useful

yummummy · 09/08/2006 07:01

hi
the rule is:
"less than an amount, fewer than a number"
eg fewer than 50 people voted.. but use less sugar in your cakes
so less is correct in this case
hope this is useful

yummummy · 09/08/2006 07:02

sorry to post twice.. been up since 5am with dds.aaaaaagggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

ScummyMummy2Lenin · 09/08/2006 07:07

thanks yummummy.

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yummummy · 09/08/2006 07:31

Scummymummy- god just read this again and in my bleary eyed state think I may have made a mistake- if the sample is PEOPLE, ie a number, then perhaps it should be fewer than 2%- - god it's too early, shouldn't have posted in half awake state- get someone else to double check this, sorry to be so useless if it's important
ANYONE more helpful???

wartywarthog · 09/08/2006 07:54

fewer for a number, less for a quantity.

so if the sample is of people it would be 'fewer than 2% of the sample', but if it's sugar it's 'less that 2% of the sample'.

wartywarthog · 09/08/2006 07:55

than, not that!

ScummyMummy2Lenin · 09/08/2006 08:06

The sample is of people- this is source of my confusion! So it should be fewer?

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aDAdOnMumsnet · 09/08/2006 08:13

I'd agree with "fewer than 2% of the sample", if it relates to people. But I don't think it would be horribly wrong to say "less than" either, as you could be referring to the percentage equally.

Tinker · 09/08/2006 08:14

Can't you put "only 1.whatever% of the sample"?

janinlondon · 09/08/2006 08:25

Very pleased to see work continuing on this written project!!!

TutterOtsky · 09/08/2006 08:27

it depends on the context - as to whether you are referring directly to people or a singular item.

e.g. "less than 2% of the customer base agreed that..."

but "of the total respondents, fewer than 2% agreed that...".

thewomanwhothoughtshewasahat · 09/08/2006 08:28

ooo thanks for officially recognising me as a grammarian, I'm no big expert on less/fewer but I would hazard a guess that in this case it should be less. I personally think a percentage is an amount - especially as it's a percentage of a sample

Out of the 200 people asked fewer than 50 said yes.

But

Less than 25 per cent of the sample replied yes.

I can't really back this up, but it seems logical to me. I also think it sounds better. I also agree that no-one (well, not many people) would notice

thewomanwhothoughtshewasahat · 09/08/2006 08:29

I think what I just put is on the same lines as tutter

SenoraPostrophe · 09/08/2006 08:40

late again for a grammar question.

just in case it still helps: yes, less than 2% of the sample, because "the sample" is not countable (but, as Tutter says, fewer than 2% of respondents)

Uwila · 09/08/2006 08:42

Agree with WWTSWAH. (and Tutter)

yummummy · 09/08/2006 09:26

Phew, glad I wasn't being too dense early this morning and that this is a source of debate for many-agree that really noone will notice, however it all depends as the others have said on whether you take the people, ie a number or the percentage which is an amount as the subject-and here I think you "pays your money and takes your choice"...

ScummyMummy2Lenin · 09/08/2006 11:20

Thank you very much, everyone.
Early morning working atm, jan and progress is mighty slow but at least it is sort of progressing. Ish.
Good get-out clause, tinker!

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