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Dd2 scared the life out of me today

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 17:38

I was at Bluewater with my sister in the food hall having a cup of coffee, her dd and my dd were drinking milk and playing together when my dd (true to form) decides to run off without looking back. I chased after her, went to grab her arm and she pulled it away at the same time and she fell over and banged her head on the marble floor. She started to scream and I picked her up for a cuddle when she flopped back in my arms. First of all I thought she was having a tantrum, but when I lifted her head up, her eyes had rolled back, and her lips were going blue. I just panicked, and jiggled her about, shouting her name and she sort of came to and started screaming again. It scared the bloody bejesus out of me. What the hell do you think happened to her, and should I get her checked out?

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Twiglett · 05/05/2006 17:39

yes you should take her to a&e .. they need to check her for concussion .. take her now

Twiglett · 05/05/2006 17:40

she bumped her head hard enough to pass out .. I'm sure she'll be fine .. but really its best to get these things checked out ..

PanicPants · 05/05/2006 17:40

It sounds like she was unconscious for a moment. It might be an idea to get her checked over.

How is she now?

Greensleeves · 05/05/2006 17:40

agree with Twiglett - better to be on the safe side

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 17:43

She is fine at the moment. She has eaten her tea and played with her brother and sister as normal. She did have a nap this afternoon, but not straight away after it happened iyswim!

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PanicPants · 05/05/2006 17:46

I think i'd still take, head injuries can be dodgy for at least 24hrs after

Milliways · 05/05/2006 17:48

A friend of ours DS hurt himself on our trampoline (pulled a muscle). He screamed, then was slightly sick, then passed out like your DD (eyes rolled, blue lips etc).

We called an ambulance. He had come round before they got here & they gave him a good check. Said it was probably the shock caused a drop in sugar levels hence faint. However, he had NOT banged his head - so I'm with the others. Get him checked over - or at least call NHS Direct for advice.

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 17:50

Will take her to A&E as soon as dh gets home to look after the other two - he's due bcak any minute now.

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babyonboard · 05/05/2006 17:53

i'd say it sounds like brief shock..with children especially you can go into a trancelike state and lose circulation briefly when shocked..the same thing happens when you go into one of those 'freezing pools' in sweden..

but all the same....best have her checked asap..you don't want to be wondering, or suddenly decide to get it checked at 11pm tonight when all the 'beer injuries' are rolling into a & a

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 17:56

My sister thought that maybe it was because she was screaming soooo much, and when she drew in a breath to do it again, she kind of forgot to stop drawing in and passed out iyswim?! Still, I'd best make sure it is nothing more serious.

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Lucycat · 05/05/2006 18:26

My dd used to do exactly the same whenever she hurt herself, she would take this huge breath as if to scream in pain, nothing would come out and she would pass out exactly as you've described. it's the most frightening thing I've ever experienced, and she may well do it again so prepare yourself, I would just lay her down, or if possible try to keep her stood up with the minimum of fuss and it passes. My dd did it from the age of about 2 and is 3 next week and hasn't done it for a few months now.

Was she really pale and tired afterwards?

Lucycat · 05/05/2006 18:28

In fact one of the first threads I ever started on Mn was about this, when the archive is working again, I'll find it for you.

Hope your dd is ok now.

babyonboard · 05/05/2006 18:33

gosh lucycat..my little sister used to do that when she was ill/ hurt herself/ upset ..i'd forgotten all about it.
she would be crying so hard she kind of halted her breathing and just went blu and limp..
it's very frightenenig..then when she got older she did the same thing ( well...tried..butsoon realised she couldnt hold her breath for long enough)to get attention..

Lucycat · 05/05/2006 18:35

With dd it almost wasn't an attention thing as she didn't have tantrums, it was the pain, but it did work if we left her standing up rather than picking up and cuddling her straight away iykwim.

Halster · 05/05/2006 18:39

A simiilar thing happened to my daughter last year. She fell over, banged her head on the sofa, started really crying and then suddenly went a grey/blue colour and her eyes rolled back in her head - only for a few seconds and then she started crying again (and was then right as rain within about 30 secs). I was terrified - we went down to the A&E, they checked her out thoroughly and told me that it was most likely a breath holding attack. She just couldn't get her breath back and momentarily lost consiousness. I would definitely go down to A&E and get her checked out though, especially if she banged her head hard.

LeahE · 05/05/2006 19:13

There is some recognised condition where this happens after relatively minor tumbles -- there was an article about it in Junior last year but I don't remember the details now. Definitely worth pursuing with the GP IMO.

Lucycat · 05/05/2006 19:23

I also should say that she only ever did it about 4 times in total and doesn't now, any news Bomper?

sugarfree · 05/05/2006 19:24

Leah,is it Reflex Anoxic Seizures you're thinking of?
DS2 has it and I was talking to another MNer about at the beginning of the week.

sugarfree · 05/05/2006 19:26

Just read the thread properly and Lucy it sound as if your daughter was having textbook reflex anoxic seizures.

sugarfree · 05/05/2006 19:30

\link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=8&threadid=168293\For Lucycat}

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 20:27

Hello all, I have just got back. Managed to get an appointment at an Emergency doctors. He checked her over thoroughly, and could find nothing amiss. He seemed to be in agreement with my sister (and you Lucycat) that it was due to her screaming - he did use a technical term, but I was just sooooooooo relieved she was OK I wasn't really listening properly iykwim!! He did say that it may happen again too, so to watch out for it!!! BTW, Lucycat my dd is 2 also!!

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babyonboard · 05/05/2006 20:32

good news bomper! that must be a relief..
my 5m ds fell off the bed for the first time recently which frightened me beyond belief so i can i magine how scared you werre..

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Bomper · 05/05/2006 20:34

It was horrible!!! Remind me again - why did we become mothers?! Smile

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Lucycat · 05/05/2006 20:35

So is the inference sugarfree, that it could happen again? she's not done it for months and it seems to be a mild version of the seizures described on those websites (thanks for those btw). Got me a bit worried that I should get some sort of diagnosis, when I'd just dimissed it as something she'd grow out of.

Lucycat · 05/05/2006 20:36

So glad your dd is ok Bomper, it's truly heart stopping isn't it?

our dd's are dramam queens keeping us on our toes aren't they Wink