anyone a cpn or know anything about the pay arrangements for cpns?

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Anyone? wnat to clarify a unlikely tale someone has told me

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Not me coddy, but would like to know what a cpn is! Community Psychiatric Nurse?

vaguely coddy why what's the tale?

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Dont know about using a private cpn,the ones i have had were all under the NHS and i was referred by my G.P but i will try to answer your question anyway if you want,ask away.

Coddy??

Pay arrangements in what way? If ther are NHS employees they are paid in the usual way - depends on their grade.

aha mears - thats the issue - off toget ds2 will post in an hour or so
Mears you are just the gal
(Community Psychiatric nurse)

I am not one!

actually an outreach one

would you ever get 5 % extra slary for working "unsocial hours" she was a G grade before (is that right?)

Has there been a recent pay rejigging?

Yes - the pay structure is being changed to help modernise the service. It is called Agenda for Change. If you interested you can read all about it here

In England there are Early Implementer sites which the link will tell you about. Scotland and the rest of Britain is going to join in October this year. The early implementer sites should show up problems which can be ironed out before the nation goes 'live' so to speak. Does that help?

Should have said that in the past you got paid you unsocial hours (weekends, nights, after 8pm etc) monthly as you did them. You didn't get any when on annual leave.
As a G grade (which I am) your unsocial hours were paid at the lower F grade rate.
With Agenda for Change, you pattern of unsocial hours will be looked at and you will receive an average percentage - for some it could be a higher rate than 5%. It will be paid as a percentage of your basic and you will get in when on AL as well. It will save lots of money on the wage administration bill.

One other point - AfC means the end of clinical grading so we won't be called D,E,F,G,H or I grades any more than goodness. Clinical grading was the worst thing to happen to the NHS in 1988.

Ok.. My reason is that My MIl works very long and odd hours -we suspect Not at her desk ()

and she has been spouting forth about how she will get paid for it - she tlaked about it alot.. too much really and we are suspicious anyway...

She will not get paid for unsocial hours unless she is rostered on unsocial hours at the moment IYSWM. The percentage is calculated on the average unsocial hours you do already. If you don't already do them, you won't get paid them with the new pay structure.

She does them because of the outreach nature of her job - someone has to be on call because of hte drugs and the patients she has.

Seems to go to a LOT of courses as well - the other side of Leicester .....
#Hmmmmmmmmmmm

She will be entitled to a percentage for being on call which does affect your social life. There perhaps a problem here regarding her application to work rather than the pay itself?