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ST ALBANS...anyone live there/been?

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granarybeck · 25/04/2006 21:59

What is it like? Nice place to live? Good schools? Dh has been offered job in london which we are only considering at this stage, but I have been looking at St Albans as a place we could potentially move to. Anyone any info or advice about what its like?

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granarybeck · 26/04/2006 13:03

Thanks 2MP, I had thught that that train must get pretty busy!

As I now live near a town that no-one would want to actually live in (we live about 4 miles out and is quite nice), what is it like to live in the town? Are there any roughbits? And how far is 'away' from town? Sorry to seem dense but it seems so different to where we are now! Hence, the reason we are thinking of taking job offer and moving!

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tissy · 26/04/2006 13:22

my family live in St Albans, I grew up there but now live in Scotland.

THE HOUSES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE!

You will be looking at around £250K for a three bed semi in an OK but not great area. My Mum's house is on a street where a corner semi was on the market for £600K Shock. Don't know what it sold for, but suspect more than that!

Schools are good, shopping good, traffic getting worse!

tissy · 26/04/2006 13:22

my family live in St Albans, I grew up there but now live in Scotland.

THE HOUSES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE!

You will be looking at around £250K for a three bed semi in an OK but not great area. My Mum's house is on a street where a corner semi was on the market for £600K Shock. Don't know what it sold for, but suspect more than that!

Schools are good, shopping good, traffic getting worse!

KTeePee · 26/04/2006 13:34

Live near there too...If you have kids that will be transferring to state secondary school while you live there, I wouldn't advise going for the villages or countryside around as there are always problems for kids in those areas getting places where they want, from what I hear. Its a pity as you would get more for your money.... Would also recommend the north side rather than south side of town for the same reason

I personally think it's a great town and am glad I live near it. The town centre being busy is only an issue if you are driving through it - don't know why anyone does really. If your dh is commuting into London he will probably want to walk or cycle to the station anyway. If you live in the town centre you won't need to drive around it much and if you live a bit further out you won't be affected by the centre much.

Tissy, £250k would only get you a 2 bed terrace now

granarybeck · 26/04/2006 13:40

Thanks KTeePee, is really useful to know as kids are in year 3 and 4 now so wouldn't want to move again before secondary school.

House prices def an issue in our decision! Is really trick as when look at rightmove etc some houses may look really nice for price but could be in dodgy area. Also not yet sure what exact salary would be for dh's job (he is crap at getting to point and asking for money details).

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2ManyPimms · 26/04/2006 13:48

Living in town is fab! We stroll out to one of the many drinking establishments of an evening (7 in my little area alone!) and off to the shops at any time of the day. I live on a cul-de-sac so there isn't the thru traffic but the downside is that I do not have a garden, just a very nice terrace (with water feature a la Charlie Dimmock). It isn't much of a problem, not having a real garden. The Cathedral is across the street and there is a huge green space there. The park just a short stroll away from that as well.

For me, "away" from town is anywhere that I can't stroll into the centre within 10 minutes.

Rough bits? From what I can put together, Cottonmill is not a great area. I can recommend going over to the police station (on Victoria Street) and chatting to the chap at the inquiry window. They will give you the low-down on any areas which have "issues". I did that when I moved and it was one of the best things I could have done (not that I remember much besides Cottonmill). Mind you, problem areas here aren't really like the problem areas in other towns. A rule of thumb is that the more expensive the rent or cost of a house, the less desirable of an area. Oh...the east side of the city, off of the London Road can be a bit dicey. Again, patches of absolutely fine with patches of YOIPS!

We are looking to buy and I can echo tissy's post that houses are expensive. We have looked about a mile and a half from the station (by a very good 2ndary school) and a 3 bed (tiny bedrooms too!) semi is on the market for 384k. I'd expect to spend around 450k for a reasonable house.

Have you gone onto upmystreet.com ? Great resource! Check vebra.com or primelocation.com for houses and flats.

KTeePee · 26/04/2006 13:52

Feel free to CAT me too if you want advice on a particular street or school

edam · 26/04/2006 14:23

I think £300k would get you a three bed house with garden within a mile of the station in Harpenden. But it would be a terraced house. An end terrace on the street backing on to mine was up for £320k recently.

There's a real price hike going from terraced to semi or three to four bedrooms, or modern to period. If you don't mind having to drive to the station you get more for your money, unless you choose the Roundwood area where school proximity outweighs station distance. And yes, getting on the train at Harpenden gives you a much better chance of getting a seat. Also a good chance on the way back since you'll be getting on at Faringdon. But the journey's so fast it's not the end of the world if you don't get a seat.

Only part of Harpenden to avoid is Batford - on the eastern side. And it's not rough, or anything, just less desirable.

Basically even the worst-performing primary school in Harpenden (in Batford) is better than national average. There are three state comprehensives, all with good results (Roundwood and St George's are best, Sir John Lawes not as sought-after but again better than national average and good for less academic kids, I'm told).

KTeePee is right about restricted school choice if you move to the villages.

It's a small town full of relatively well-off people who want to send their kids to good state schools - as an indicator local supermarkets are Waitrose, M&S and Sainsbury's. Every month there's some entertaining small town event going on, like the Highland Gathering (seriously) or classic car rallies. There's a regular farmer's market. And more children/parent activities than you can shake a stick at.

You could buy our house, if you like, I'm bored and want a new one...

Esmummy · 26/04/2006 14:39

I personally would go for Harpendon over St Albans. As a general rule Harpendon is lovely whereas St Albans has some less desireable areas. However, Harpendon is quite a small, relaxed way of life whereas St Albans is busier.
Could you mayeb spend a night at a hotel or something in both areas and spend some time wandering around seeing what you think, getting a feel for the people etc ?

granarybeck · 26/04/2006 14:44

2MP, love the asking the police suggestion, what a good idea! Yes, have looked at upmystreet, is good because can do the compare features and stats with those where we are now.

Thanks Edam, - don't joke, last person to say that to me was the person we bought this house off! I need to get our house valued to see just what our budget would be, I think we'd just have to accept that we'd have a smaller house, but be in a nicer place. What you and 2MP said about areas not being rough just less desirable is reassuring. Where we are now, the area we live in is nice but there are lots of parts of the town that you would def not want to live in. I have visions of myself moving into a similar area by mistake!

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elastamum · 26/04/2006 14:53

We live in st Albans and love it, good state and private schools, a lively city centre and some nice parks. harpenden is nice too, but a bit quieter and more of a small country town, very pretty and also some top state schools. Houses cost a fortune here. Travel into central london is very easy and loads of parents commute. We can walk into town or to a resturant in about 10 minutes from where we live, but at the same time we live in a very quiet area

edam · 26/04/2006 23:42

Granarybeck, I honestly don't think there's a rough part of Harpenden, not that I've found, anyway (and it's not that big so I think I would have done). St Albans does have a few dodgy areas, I think, but nothing compared to big cities.

Elastamum's right that Harpenden is more small town. But then a lot of the people who live here moved from London, so it's not as sleepy as you might expect.

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