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I stood proud and shouted the odds about parents & toddler parking

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twiglett · 07/01/2004 17:06

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Lisa78 · 18/02/2004 12:22

Popped to Tescos this morning and the car park was jam packed. So I ended up parking right at the bottom, which is a good distance from the store and also on a hill. Unloaded DS2 (3m) and his car seat, got a ticket (we have to pay at our local tesco) and then trudged up the hill. Was not impressed to see some bloke just getting into his car, in a P and C spot, no children in sight, so inspired by twiglett, I said - everso politely - "excuse me, do you know that these bays are reserved for people with children?"
He looked at me and said "Fuck off" got in his car and left....
Course I was so on the ball I just stood there and stared after him - DH said I should have got his registration and reported him to the store and the police! Mind you DH said if he'd been there he would have thumped him (not likely!)for swearing at me
Am flabberghasted - and annoyed with myself for just standing there like a stuffed lemon

Jimjams · 18/02/2004 12:23

sorry assumed the disabled bays were full. Perhaps she didn't realise? She might have thought she was in a disabled bay and been staring at you- If they are full then I think its OK for a disabled person to use the P and T's, but not the other way round iyswim.

handlemecarefully · 18/02/2004 12:38

Just goes to show Lisa78 the ignorant mindset of people who do this. They are a lost cause!

Twinkie · 18/02/2004 12:42

Maybe we should all carry a knife around with us to slash their tyres?? How dare he swear at you!! God the angry beast is rising again - what is wrong with me!!!

Easy · 18/02/2004 13:56

yep, I use the P & T spaces if all the disabled spaces are full.
When I used to take ds with me (I'm not fit enough to manage him on my own atm) I could choose from either!

LadyCodworth · 18/02/2004 13:59

btw Lisa he could only say Fuck off because he couldnt think of a plausible reason.

I parked in a p and t space the other week at 7 30 at night.
Is that allowed - there were acres of them free?

handlemecarefully · 18/02/2004 14:06

Oh I think we might just allow you to do that LadyC - 7.30pm is after most toddlers bed time (except my toddlers perhaps! )

Lisa78 · 18/02/2004 16:02

I'm still cross though - more so cos I just stood there than cos of the way he spoke to me! I should have done something but I just gawped! Cheeky git

fisil · 18/02/2004 16:07

I plastered a chaps pick up with sheets of A4 venting my feelings about the fact that although I asked him to move he refused and walked off. I was lucky enough to leave the store at the same time as him and enjoy watching him having to go all around the vehicle reading them and ripping them off.

Note to self - take stickers in future!

Helsbels · 18/02/2004 16:17

HMC called it as it was earlier - you are dealing with senseless, insensitive morons here. They do not understand why it is important to have a special space when you have children in car seats. It is the same reason that older people park there, there was no car seats when they had kids, we just all rolled around in the back seat with no seat belts or anything. It is not really their fault that they do not understand. The people with no excuse are people who have kids of 6 plus with no disabilites, no pregnancy, no problems, who still park there. They know how hard it is but seem to ignore the fact. I saw an incident the other day of a woman with two children of about 10 getting out in p&t parking, in my book, she is the real offender, not some ignorant berk who we can expect to know no better!!!! I'm really pleased that people are sticking up for P&t but my friend has just started working for Sainsburys and part of their training program is to tell people to park in P&t is all disabled spaces are full. We all know that there are many genuine disabled badge holders but I bet we all know someone who has an orange badge that belongs to their mum who they take shopping once a month that they use at other times. We just have to face up to the fact that there are some selfish people out there and I really believe we are banging our heads against brick walls on this one.

Lisa78 · 18/02/2004 16:19

hear hear fisil! Wish I'd thought of that - perhaps I should carry an aerosol of paint with me in future
(Just kidding, before I get banned from MN!)

Rosalind · 18/02/2004 17:57

I tried the same on Monday - walking past the by then one empty parent and child space in the supermarket carpark a middle aged man in a suit and a smart car drew in. No kids no car seat no disabled sticker and clearly fit and healthy. I too suggested - very politely - maybe a bit selfish to park there with no kids. He shouted after me that I was the selfish one to have children, to which I replied who was he expecting to look after him in his old age.
Sadly I expect he'll just make even more of a point of using them in future!

LadyCodworth · 18/02/2004 18:24

wow ros!! great retort!

LadyCodworth · 18/02/2004 18:24

man once told me to not bloody have them

he was fat and ugly so i TOLD HIM SO

twiglett · 18/02/2004 18:26

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Paula71 · 18/02/2004 23:56

Maybe we should write a list of witty retorts and memorise them for such occassions!

My favourite, which someday I will probably use considering how easily people throw insults:

"You're fat."

"Yes well, you are ugly and tomorrow I can diet."

I don't know who said it but it works for me!!

Marina · 19/02/2004 13:30

Isn't it a variant on Winston Churchill and Margot Asquith, along the lines of "Sir, you are drunk". "Madam, you are ugly, but tomorrow I will be sober".

Furball · 20/08/2004 16:15

I finally had the nerve to say something to a lady who was loading her car up today in a M & T space. I was narked anyway as ALL the M & T spaces where already taken so I just said 'Did you realise that these were M & T spaces?' her reply? 'well I am a mother but I haven't got the children with me today!' Yeah right you stupid cow!!

mamerin · 20/08/2004 16:19

this sooooooooo stresses and annoys me as well

hatter · 20/08/2004 21:59

Haven't read all these but have to object to the three-wheeler buggy bashing. I got one to go walking regularly (ie to live my life) and refused, out of principle, to get another, four-wheeler one to use normally, thereby giving even more money to an industry that creams as much off parents as possible. they're not just a fashion accessory. Don't be so judgemental

also - on the parking - it's not the distance it's the width.

MeanBean · 20/08/2004 22:23

I've just read the Julie Bindel article and it really irritated me. Why do people always try and set up one group's rights against another group's? Wanting decent parking facilities for children, doesn't mean you think the disabled should have to park in the field three miles away from the supermarket. And mothers of small children also have elderly relatives, so they know how important it is for elderly people to have good parking as well. It's not either or.
As for having a sense of entitlement, the reason supermarkets give up special facilities is because we're bloody good customers and they make most of their profits from us - it's in their interests to make it as convenient as possible for us to shop there, otherwise we'll go elsewhere. And as for our mothers managing without, they also managed without working outside the home and most women didn't have a car to do the shopping with anyway (at least if you're as old as me!)

acnebride · 20/08/2004 22:50

interesting thinking processes by the guys who rang into the radio phone in (this is a post miles down the thread, sorry). people shouldn't have children if they're not prepared to walk across the car park? those phoners shouldn't have legs if they're not prepared to walk across the car park.

lisa78 and rosalind, I swear you've both met my xh!

have been thinking about moving recently because of schools worries/dh longer commute but i will put up with a lot for being able to walk into town and go to the market and normal shops.

juniper68 · 20/08/2004 22:58

Oh I've quickly looked through these and must remember stressyhead's 'you've left something in Tesco's' ......'your baby' and they say they haven't got one etc....

that is class!

MummyToSteven · 20/08/2004 23:12

don't quite understand the three wheeler bashing/objections to people who can't fold up buggies on buses - I have a practical lightweight graco mirage and am not able to hold DS, fold the buggy and get it on the bus at the same time, so if i am by myself i will wait for a bus with a buggy space (and try my best not to bash into anyone). but have to admit as a public transport user I agree with vp - just spare a thought for non-drivers/non-car owners who have to get the buggy/children from the bus stop to the supermarket which is likely to be further than the far end of the carpark

tallulah · 01/09/2004 17:43

Anyone seen the letter in this week's Woman's Own complaining about an aggressive woman who had a go at someone for parking in a P&T space (she says she was actually next to one, not in one) to let out her ill 83 year old mother!! Was this one of you?!!