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my dd2 will be 6 in may.she still isn't having dry nights though.

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cutekids · 13/03/2006 13:15

both my dd1 and ds1 are dry but she doesn't seem able to "feel" herself weeing. i have to admit, she does wear a pull-up at night only because i can't bear to have her lying in a cold wet bed. anyone know what i can do to encourage her? she does try.just doesn't seem able to control it...fine in the daytime though.also, her pull-up sometimes is absolutely soaking so she must "go" quite alot when she's sleeping.(she has the very occasional dry one but it's very very rare)>

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pashmina · 13/03/2006 13:53

how much is she having her last drink, and does she sleep very heavily?

I still lift my dd1 at about 10.30, becasue she can't seem to last all night, but her younger dd can.

I would of thought it is more likely she is having one large wee rather than having numerous wee's.

Feistybird · 13/03/2006 13:58

wwb will be here soon I expect, she knows quite a bit about this.

Orinoco · 13/03/2006 21:47

Just to let you know cutekids, my dd1 will be 6 in December and she's the same. We tried last summer and got her dry at night - but it went to pot when she started school in September. I think she's just so tired she sleeps through and doesn't realise she's weeing. I'm going to try again in the summer - like you I don't like the idea of wet beds in winter.

rickman · 13/03/2006 21:51

My ds is the same, he will be 6 in April. Very rarely are his pullups dry in the morning, in fact they frequently leak. Not sure what to do about it, but I haven't tried anything really.

WigWamBam · 13/03/2006 21:59

Not sure what to make of the fact that Feistybird thinks I'm the wee expert Wink

My dd is almost 5 and still not dry at night, although she's been dry in the day for well over 2 years. I've looked into it to see what I can do for dd, and from what I understand of it there is a hormone that kicks in to suppress urination overnight, and until that happens they are physically unable to remain dry at night. My understanding from that is that it's not something that can be taught, or that can be forced, so I am relaxed enough about it not to push it until she's ready.

GPs and continence specialists don't see it as a problem until a child is 7, since in most cases the hormone has kicked in by then. After that it's considered a continence problem and they will investigate.

NotQuiteCockney · 13/03/2006 22:13

What WWB says matches with what I've read and heard. My DS1 was dry at night from 3, and I know people whose kids were dry at night before they were dry in the day. It really is a bit of a lottery. (And partly genetic as well.)

Please do keep your kids in pull-ups if they're still wet at night - why make them uncomfortable and make more laundry for yourselves?

tobysmumkent · 13/03/2006 22:24

Hi, just wanted to add to this, because my DS1 was unable to stay dry at nights until he was 7. I'd done the lifting, and also gritted my teeth for 4/5 weeks at a time before going back to night-time nappies. One of the problems was definitely that he is a very very sound sleeper. And we tried star charts, lots of praise, no negative comments.....

We got to see the incontinence advisor just before his 7th birthday. She advised making sure he drinks plenty during the day, and also goes to the loo several times, to get his body/brain used to the sensation of being "full" and "emptied". But no drinks from the hour before bedtime, and keep a record of what the last drink was, in case a pattern emerged. And she involved him, asked him how he felt about it, explained how his body worked etc. And we were loaned an alarm, (which generally fell off/didn't work, but at least helped focus his mind). We also had to keep a record of what time he wet (often dry when I checked at night and was wet first thing in the morning, which apparantly showed that he could hold on to wee!).

And the other important thing was, there was no going back to night-time pants. It took about 3 months. (in winter, too, with hindsight not the best of times....)

She warned they often relapse for a while about a year later, but that's not happened. It did take time, and he did sleep in wet beds (so soundly, don't think he was too bothered!) but I have also heard something about not always being physically able to be ready until they are 6/7 sometimes.

Hope that some of this helps, good luck!

cutekids · 14/03/2006 12:04

Thankyou to everyone for your feedback!feel a bit more reassured now.(in fact, i've been thinking about it and i'm sure my son who is exactly 12 months older than her had the same problem but suddenly "sorted himself out" about this time last year.)Have to also remark that -touch wood!-she was dry this morning and, according to hubbie, was dry yesterday morning too---course men being men he never thought to make it "a big deal"...!!! MEN! I told him he had to praise her to which he replied, "well i was still half asleep when she showed me her pull-up"!!!!

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cutekids · 14/03/2006 12:27
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pashmina · 15/03/2006 10:35

so, can anybody let me know if it is wrong to lift your hids whne you go to bed? my dd's love a glass of milk at stortime, maybe that has to stop?

Sorry for hijack!

cutekids · 15/03/2006 10:42

Why would it be wrong to lift them out of bed?
my kids take water-in their drinking bottles-to bed with them!-couldn't take that away from little one.she's always drinking.
btw,she was dry again this morning!hurray!

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bundle · 15/03/2006 10:45

key is more drinking during the day and ease off volume after around 4 or 5pm. dd1 (6 in june) still wets, did in fact last night. for me it's not a big deal. it definitely is genetic, if both parents were bedwetters, their child is 70% likely to be one too.

bundle · 15/03/2006 10:48

lifting is "wrong" because it doesn't let the bladder train itself to "know" when it's full and time to wee...
and apparently it's better to rouse them properly, so they're really awake when weeing. oh and do the lift at different times.

cutekids · 15/03/2006 10:50

sorry Bundle! i've never done the lifting thing so wasn't really sure what pashmina was meaning.sorry pashmina for giving you wrong info!

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butty · 15/03/2006 10:55

hi Cutekids,

I know how you are feeling, my 5 yr old dd will be 6 in august and she rarely has a dry night!!!

i have tried alsorts, but nothing works. Fortunately or unfortunately, she does awake when she has done it, so i have to go sort the bed, pyjamas etc....

It can be very gruelling at times.

I really dont have a clue what to do apart from get up in the night and sort her out.

I have spoken to the school teacher and her pead is also aware of the problem, i have done everything they have advised and still with no joy.

they have said that if the problem is still occuring when she is 7, they will refer her to a specialist, but until then, we basically have to ride it outSad

sorry, i can't be of much help, just wanted to let you know that you are not on your own.

Butty.xxx

cutekids · 15/03/2006 10:59

hi Butty!
just out of curiosity,have you been advised to put her in normal pants by the paediatrician?
some people say they don't get the "sensation" whilst wearing them. trouble is, like i said earlier, i can't bear the thought of her lying in cold wee at night!

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butty · 15/03/2006 11:04

Hi Cutekids,

The pead advised me to put her to bed as normal, including normal atire!!!

I have never even consisdered putting her in pull ups or nappy type things, just on the basis of her feelings and the age that she is at.

I hate having to get up most nights as very tiring, but i really cant think of anything else to do??

I do give her plenty of drinks throughout the day, as advised by pead, but i dont give her a drink after 6.30. She goes to the toilet just before bed as routine.

I did used to lift her to the toilet at 11 every night, but she would wake up and i had a hard time getting her back to sleep.

Butty.xxx

Avalon · 15/03/2006 11:08

Sometimes 'lifting' or waking up at night is the only answer - for my nearly 12 yo and a friend's boy of the same age. Sad

cutekids · 15/03/2006 11:16

thanks Butty! i was thinking about this and remember when i once saw a paed.about my son (he's 12 months older than daughter).i remember him saying he didn't think there was a big problem and that "because he's such a proud little boy" it would be better to let him wear pull ups!!!i was actually worrying a little too early as he did eventually sort himself out.think i was expecting him to be like his older sister (12 months older than him) who had never (touch wood) wet the bed.hopefully, our little ones will grow out of it of their own accord.your daughter is a little bit younger than mine and ,as i said, things (touch wood again!)are looking up with her.

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