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Original poster

FFS I thought my housing association were bad before but now i am speechless

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nutcracker · 14/02/2006 14:14

Me and xp have just rung the ha to get him put on the transfer list and guess what, they won't.

The list is closed for the forseeeable future and him alredy being a tennant of theirs makes no odds.

Basically they don't give a toss.

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charliecat · 14/02/2006 15:24

Why can you legally not chuck him out? Can you legally remove his name from the tenacy agreement Will the council not provide details of landlords with reasonable rent that take people of the homeless lists? They do here.

lou33 · 14/02/2006 15:31

Nutty, stop worrying about him, he can deal with it himself. He is one person, he will find somewhere to slot in. Unless he doesn't want to, and thinks it will mean you will take him back

LoveMyGirls · 14/02/2006 15:31

this is going to sound harsh but.....it might work
think about it, you're ringing on his behalf so they think - he obviously has someone who can put him up and look after him so why should we bother when there are people out there who actually have no-one to care for them i.e. people in care and young mums who have been abandoned by their family etc etc
(not saying this is right but ....)
so unless he is going down there on his own pleading then they arent going to do anything i dont think.

trust me i've been in a situation where i was 19 with a 2 yr old evicted from a flat (private rented) id been threatened that i would be dragged out with my 2yr old with the force of a baseball bat but i had no where to go so i was down there begging for somewhere to live and they still didnt re house me until id squatted in the flat for 3 months!!

doormat · 14/02/2006 15:33

nutty you can get his name off the tenancy by a written letter from you dh requesting this
the tenancy will go to you then

btw i had to do this with my ex

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nutcracker · 14/02/2006 18:00

How many more times, I am not taking him back, I have made that more than clear, to him and everyone on here.

Also I haven't been ringing for him, he has been doing the ringing.

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PeachyClair · 14/02/2006 18:08

How severe is his depression? Can he get a CPN to help, might cause him to be classed as a vulnerable adult.

Tortington · 15/02/2006 01:34

if he transfers the tenancy - then you can kick him out.

Freckle · 15/02/2006 03:56

You may be telling everyone that you are not taking him back, but he is living at an address where he is named as a tenant. No council or HA will rehouse him because he is not homeless.

He needs to be somewhere else to even get a look in. Have you checked with CAB about hostels for single males? If he could get in there, then his situation is more acceptable to those offering local authority housing.

Tortington · 15/02/2006 11:57

its against housing corporation guidelines. and the HA would be severely repremanded for giving one person two tenancies. as social housing is supposed to be for those in need.

he needs to transfer the tenancy

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nutcracker · 15/02/2006 18:27

But if i kick him out where is he supposed to go.

Hos stat sick pay hasn't come through yet so he has no where to go.

The council have said if eh takes himself off the tenancy they won't want to know because he will have made himself homeless.

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Freckle · 15/02/2006 18:37

But you kicked him out once before and he got himself sorted. Can he not go back to the flat? Then, when his family kick him out, he will be genuinely homeless and the council will view his application more favourably.

I don't want to put more pressure on you, but you were warned before he moved back in that this would probably happen. Have you made any enquiries about hostels, etc.?

Blu · 15/02/2006 18:50

If he rents privately, can he get Housing Benefit?

Tortington · 15/02/2006 21:16

how are the council going to know?

if he transfers tenancy and says my g/f kicked me out - how are they going to know he was ever on the tenancy?

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nutcracker · 15/02/2006 21:25

He isn't talking to his family so no he cannot go back to the flat.

Good point Custardo hadn't thought of that (keep thinking they are all conected)

Not sure about the housing benefit if he rents privatly, he is on SSP but am not quite sure wether that entitles him or not tbh. Anyway he has no deposit or bond etc.

A friend of a friend has apparently drawn up a letter for him to write to the concil etc, that he used to get a 2 bed flat (single working bloke).

Plus Xp has brought his g.p's appointment forward to see if he can help in anyway.

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nutcracker · 15/02/2006 21:25

Ignore typing, blame 2 double vodkas.

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nutcracker · 15/02/2006 21:26

All hostels so far have been for men under 45, he is 48.

One HA have said their list for over 45's is open and he can apply, just waiting for the forms.

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Freckle · 15/02/2006 21:44

Go to CAB (or rather get him to) and ask about a rent deposit bond. Many councils operate this scheme whereby they guarantee the deposit on a private rent. Also, he can do a pre-tenancy determination regarding a private rent. This is where he and the prospective landlord complete a form which is sent to the rent officer who then decides what proportion of the rent will be covered by housing benefit. Disadvantage is that landlord will know xp requires housing benefit and some are difficult about this.

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