Lack of energy , lack of drive in some people

[Beetroot]

Is there something about alot people in their late 20's early 30's, that thinks the world owes them a living? That they don't have to strive anymore?. that they will take the easy option?
Is it to do with growing up in the Thatcher era? If so why? Or have some peopel always been like this adn I am just noticing it more now?

I get the general feeling that the easy, often less stimulating option is the one they go for.

Discuss. Becasue it is driving me!!!

well im 29.... ahh feck it I cant be arsed answering

Think it's all to do with attitudes instilled in you as a child. Take dh for example - his mum and dad are very sedentery; sit watching tv all day apart from their daily trip out to tesco in the morning. Never go on holiday, outings and have no friends apart from neighbours who look out for them. dh isn't quite that bad but he has an apathy about him that drives me nuts.

Me, my parents were ambitious, energetic - if they wanted something doing they got on with it. I'm the same. I have to be active all the time, love sport, and getting out and about.

Is that what you meant?

Daily trip to Tesco????
Oh
My God

Was incensed when the dullard at the gym (20 something vacant blonde)lost my programme that I had just devised with the trainer. She didn't aplogise,just told me would have to book another session with him (right,and get another babysitter,spend another £15 blah blah blah)

When I raised it with the manager he said
'Yeah well,you can't really expect these kids on minimum wage to try that hard can you'

Really???????????

I cleaned fecking pub toilets for a year after I left university.

For eg Beety?

My parents and dh's are the ants in their pants types, always doing stuff, they wear me out!

I think it is nice to chill every so often!

for eg my dad called me yesterday, in the morning he had been gardening from 7am, chopped down and sawn up a 50ft tree, then he cut all his hedges (he has a big garden) and had a massive bonfire til late, then he had a bit of supper and had spent an hour putting stamps in an album then sorted out a load of old watch parts.... I mean chill OUT!

Dh's parents, we can never get to see as they are always out or on holiday (just got back from month long tour of northern Thailand, Burma, Cambodia and Laos, they are in their 70s)or playing golf/tennis/bridge etc

I do think there is a balance to be struck and life doesn't always have to be go go go, fill every moment etc...

oh and my mother is swanning around Aus & NZ for 2 months currently

what makes you think this, Beetroot?

I have to weigh up the day at its end.
If I haven't done something concrete,feel really depressed.
I think I am a bit manic. I can't understand it when I go to people's houses and they are dirty,or there ispiles of washing/ironing about and they are just slobbing on the sofa.

Um, i'm 32, and we slave for a living! DH has a full time job plus is trying to start a small business; I can't work right now (ds's X 3, no childcare, plus ds1 has sn) but I am doing a degree in my few spare hours.

I could really do with learning how to chill, but it's beyond me.

Now, BIL- another story.... 31, at home with Mummy, no ambition..... drives us nuts!

jeez, glad you can't see my house atm moondog

Tell us who you're thinking of Beety and we'll crow and scoff with you (if we can be bothered...)

If it's to do with growing up in the Thatcher era, boy did their plans backfire! "Culture of dependency" indeed!

oh no mine doesn't extend to my house - have a frantic lifestyle really so I don't see the need to fill every spare minute with mad activity

Hey, ks - where you bin?

Could it just be that the ambitious people are just somewhere else? I can't remember exactly where you are but it's possible that the people with drive are working their way around the world/doing an MBA/working in a major financial centre and that the the people that you meet the most are the stay with what you know and be comfortable types.

Oops, two "justs" in one sentence.

I guess we are at the age when we emply alot of peopple that age. They for themost part seem to want to come in late, leave early, do as little as possible, not want to impress, not driven to get to the top of their field, jsut do enough to get by.

Think bran is right. You are outside London, aren't you?

Nah, not to do with outside LOndon. We employ freelances alot who are from LOndon

Promote the most junior person above the others, that'll put the wind up them. I have the opposite complaint, that most people I know are too driven and workaholic (esp my dh) and think a life/work balance means finding the time to phone your wife to say you won't be home.

lol bran, me too.

Beetroot I have a couple of mates from back home like that - I think it's just their personality, sadly not something else we can blame on Maggie.

Poss to do with extending responsibility-free time in to early 20s at uni and not being able to get out of that groove? A bit different from leaving school at 16.

Perhaps your employee selection/mangement process isn't too hot, Beetroot?

Attitudes to work are generally dictated by the culture of where you work IME.

mousie, perhaps, but i don't think it is that. We employ freelancers for (usualy) short periods of time. I guess we are asking them 9often0 to do stuff that is a little out of their usual remit, but this (i woudl have thought) would be fun and inters=esting rather than a bother!

have noted itin general thogh not jsut with work

Beetroot I am 21 so younger than the age group you mention but I have found this a lot with other nursing students on placement, they have no interest in doing any more or learning any more than they have to. But depressing actually.

I think there is a lot of truth in this, mind you I have 3 jobs, 2 kids and 1 business. I am fed up striving and I am going to try thriving. Ok I admit it I have been reading those self help inspirantional books again.