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Emigrating to New Zealand. Have you - would you...advice, opinions please!

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earthtomummy · 03/01/2006 13:08

DH and I have been considering this really seriously over the Christmas period and would like to go next year to Auckland. We just would like to travel with the kids, experience a different lifestyle to our current one and take advantage of this before the kids get more tricky to move. Had considered Canada too (esp. Vancouver).. Ds would be 6, DD 4 and other DD 2. Are there any mumsnetters in NZ who could offer advice, or anyone who has emigrated and could give me their perspective. We've heard mixed stories. We were thinking of going to Auckland. How long would it take to get visas etc sorted. DH is v. experienced social worker who will have qualified as a family therapist next summer - when we hope to go and social work is on the skills shortage list. Any advice??

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WellieMum · 05/01/2006 22:05

earthto mummy, one thing which we've done is to be very organised about keeping in touch, eg I chat to my family every week on msn for about an hour and write lots of emails to friends. We have a digital camera and we take lots of pics of dd and send one to the grandparents most weeks, with a bit of news about what she's doing.

Eventually technology will move on and videophones or videoconferencing via computer will be good and affordable and when that happens we'll go for that too.

In some ways we're more in touch than if we lived in different cities in the same country. It takes a bit of effort but can be done.

georginars · 06/01/2006 00:00

this has got me all excited about it now - really hoping that after our Feb trip we'll have made a definite decision to go for it.
Nelson is lovely, but be warned the house prices are going up like mad there. My parents are thinking of buying a holiday home there - the use of this is a very strong plus point for us
I totally understand your worries at leaving family earthtomummy, one of my major reasons for going is because I would miss my parents so badly - they do six months here and six in NZ at the moment and I really miss them, especially since I had DD. I guess you have to weigh up all the pros and cons and see what comes out on top

earthtomummy · 06/01/2006 14:18

Looking out of my window this morning, there are def. more pros than cons. I think that if I look at it as something for 3 yrs or so I can get over the family barrier. My dad has just retired so they'd come for long stays, I'm sure. So would MIL (oh no - 2 mos of MIL) whose partner lived in NZ for 25 yrs before returning to UK. When pyou all talk re. house prices, what would a house cost in a reasonable area of Wellington or Nelson or Christchurch. I have looked on websites, but obviously I have no idea what a good area would be. Also, if I had another baby in NZ would I get healthcare or would it cost a fortune even with insurance?? We're planning a 4th at some pt. (yes, I know..) and I'm not sure I fancy trying to settle us all in with a newborn baby too. So it might be after we go that no 4 is made. Do I sound utterly mad?! Welliemum, are you from NZ or have you emigrated. How long have you been there. Is it really that windy?? We've ruled out Auckland because of the cost of property. Trying to find out what DH might earn.

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going4potty · 06/01/2006 14:35

Hi, maternity care is free, i was only out on a working visa and i didnt have to pay for drs fees, scans, prescriptions etc. God you lucky thing.

earthtomummy · 06/01/2006 14:38

gooing4potty - you obviously loved it there. I'm intereste din why you haven't gone back?

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going4potty · 06/01/2006 16:00

We are hoping too, my dh started new business also ds did have severe eczema and was very hard work so didnt want to move. Then recent ectopic, so now will ttc soon and go once we have a baby of six months, so ds1 would be at school and seeing as my job is more likely to come up first, at six months probably would have stopped bfing and the baby would be hopefully in routine so dh could mange. (pause for breath). If hower we do not conceive within a year will try and go anyway.

earthtomummy · 06/01/2006 19:29

Hi going4potty - sorry to hear you've been having such a rough time. Hope you are feeling better now. Good luck with the ttc and the plans. Exciting, isn't it.

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WellieMum · 06/01/2006 22:22

Hi there

Not a Kiwi - we moved here for the lifestyle nearly 3 years ago. Regarding wind in Wellington: it depends where you live. You can have a stunning sea (harbour) view but they all come with wind! Or you can live somewhere sheltered and have less of a view. We live in a valley just outside Wellington - it's really beautiful and we have no wind here.

I wouldn't say there are really "good" or "bad" areas in Wellington - it's not as obvious as it is in a UK city. The different areas do have different characters, so it would depend on what sort of place you want and what your budget is. The best thing of course would be to come here, hire a car and drive around to get a feel for it all. You won't want to leave!

going4potty · 06/01/2006 22:34

Thanks mummy, wasnt looking for sympathy, just answering the questionasked It is exciting, just waiting for right time and its all go

CaptainDippy · 06/01/2006 22:56

YEAH - Avoid my BIL like the plague!!

WellieMum · 09/01/2006 07:27

A further thought - not only is maternity care free but there's great continuity of care as you get the same midwife all the way through. I think that's relatively rare in the NHS.

CaptainDippy · 09/01/2006 10:45

And it is very beautiful (despite my BIL!!)!!

earthtomummy · 09/01/2006 13:13

Welliemum, is property expensive in Wellington and are there nice beaches? (DH asked latter!). Maternity care sounds good. Wish we could start doing this now. We've got to wait for DH to finish his masters. How long does the entire permit thing usu. take once a job offer is in place?

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slug · 09/01/2006 14:34

Which valley Wellimum? I'm from Upper Hutt.

earthtomummy · 10/01/2006 13:39

Hi Slug, perhaps you could tel me a bit about the Hutt Valley and Wellington? Are you from the area or did you choose to move there? If yu made that choice why there and not elsewhere in NZ? Sorry, so many questions!!

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WellieMum · 10/01/2006 20:21

e-to-m:
Property prices in Wellington are very variable depending on where you're looking (so it's hard to make a general statement), but on the whole cheaper than Auckland.

Beaches.... there are a couple that are nice in summer. But Wellington has fairly cool winters so it's not really a beach city. We're off to the northern South Island next month to have a proper beach holiday - much hotter there and the beaches are better.

Slug:
Not Upper Hutt - sort of west rather than north - it's a small place and I don't want to blow my cover! . Upper Hutt's very nice though - lucky you. Are you still there?

slug · 11/01/2006 18:17

Alas no wellimum, stuck in London. Curse marrying an Englishman!!!

earthtomummy, I grew up in Upper Hutt, though I was born in Auckland. The Hutt valley extends from Petone, on the harbour, up through Lower Hutt and Upper Hutt, and peters out at the foot of the Tararua Ranges. It is very common to live in the Hutt Valley and commute to Wellington. It takes about 50 minutes on the surburban rail from Upper Hutt to Wellington central. Obviously it takes less time the further in you live, but correspondingly the house prices go up. Whe I lived in Petone I had a flatmate who cycled in to work in Wellington, though I wouldn't recommend this all the time as there is nothing between the South Pole and New Zealand, so when the Southerly wind blows, it can frequently get up to storm force. Wellington is notorious for it's wind.

Up in the top end of the valley it is very high and can get cold in the winter. It has one of the highest lung disease rates in the country,(due to cold and inversion layers) so don't move there if you suffer from asthma. On the other hand, my sister lived in Island Bay (one of the sea side Wellington suburbs) and claimed she never suffered from hay fever the entire time she lived there, the wind blew all the pollen away. Eastbourne is a lovely suburb around the harbour, but is becoming quite expensive. A friend of mine bought a ridiculously cheap house in Petone and did it up. There are still plenty of those type of properies still avaliable. Remember, Kiwi homes, especially in the suburbs, usually come with a detached garage, laundry room and a large back yard - the kiwi quarter acre pavlova paradise they used to call it.

My parents have just retired to Tauranga. It's a fabulous place, the weather is warm, the beaches are great and the delights of the big city (Auckland) are only a couple of hours away by car. I wouldn't stress too much about ending up in a land locked town, you are never more than 70km away from the coastline in NZ, and remember the roads aren't crowded and the speed limit on the open road is 100km per hour.

The education system is decidedly better than the English one. I'm not just being a biased Kiwi, I've worked in both! Health care is subsidised. So it's not free to all like the NHS, nor is it outrageoulsy expensive like the US. You are expected to contribute, based on your income. The best bet is to get private health insurance.

I'll agree the beaches in Wellington aren't the lie in and sunbathe type, but especially along the Kapati coast there are miles upon miles of sand and dunes. You can wander for ages without encountering another person. Excellent fun, even in the depths of winter for windsurfing, running and rolling down the dunes (happy childhood memories)

earthtomummy · 11/01/2006 19:17

Slug and Welliemum, thankyou so much for your help. Interesting to hear about Wellingotn and Tauranga (which is where the jobs seem to be). Sound like you miss NZ, Slug. Would you move back? Do you think Tauranga would be a place for a family with 3 small kids - poss. 4th - I know it's hard to say, but you know what I mean. I'm basically looking for somewhere attractive, laid back , nice outdoor lifestyle and climate, no commute for DH (he's had a 1hr or more commute since 1997), where we can spend more time together as a family doing nice things without having to go miles - oh, and where the people are friendly and the schools are good. Not too much to ask...??!!

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Piffle · 11/01/2006 19:23

I also grew up in Wgtn, Upper Hutt (gorgeous vilage called Pinehaven
When parents split we moved to Brooklyn central Wgtn have also lived in southern suburbs a lot
Also vouch for the schooling..... Pick your areas but even so its not nearly as much luck as it is here

ghosty · 11/01/2006 19:42

Hi all who are thinking of emigrating to NZ

I don't have a long time to post this morning but thought I would say hello and say "DO IT!!!"

We moved to Auckland nearly 4 years ago (had a holiday here, DH had a job interview while we were on holiday, moved 2 months later!)

I love Auckland ... it gets a bad press from people who don't live here as it is a big city (well, big by NZ standards, little by European standards) and it is the most expensive place in NZ to live, house prices are high compared to average salary rates ... having said that I believe both Wellgtn and Ch'Ch are getting very pricey now too.

Definitely NOT an unfriendly city ... I have made loads of friends and find people very very open.

Obviously there are nice parts and nasty parts and like in the UK it is a postcode lottery as to whether schools are good or not which is a bit of a pain as we did end up moving after 2 years to get into a better school zone.

Um .... Ask me something and I'll answer more direct questions ... or you can CAT me if you like and we can talk further ...

bobbybobbobbingalong · 23/01/2006 01:11

You won't get anything decent for under $300K and for a flash suburb with "the best" school you are looking at half a million for something quite average, or a less flash suburb with a new detached 4 bedroom bungalow with 2 living rooms and double glazing. That's for Christchurch.

The posh bits are Fendalton and Merivale. Northshore, Redcliffs and Sumner are the beach suburbs, Cashmere is a Hill Suburb. Lyttelton is on the other side at the port and is the hippy organic suburb. Of course there are lots of others, but that will give you an idea.

bobbybobbobbingalong · 23/01/2006 01:13

Ghosty - house prices are getting sillier here every day. We could take our pick with $170K six years ago - now that wouldn't get you a retirement unit.

sonya291275 · 25/01/2006 11:08

we emigrated in 2004 with our 3 kids to just outside Auckland and loved it, the lifestyle is great. The swimmings pools were all fre and the quality and pace of life is completly different, unfortnately we had to return to the uk as our house over her fall through at the last minute and it was a case of staying over there which we did for a while and struggling with 2 mortgagaes or come back here sell the house, the go back. we opted for that option, hence we are still here as when we got back to the uk i found out i was 3 months pregnant and didnt want to be out there with a new born and not have my family and friends around me, as dh is a marine engineer and has to work away. But when ds is a little older we are differently going back , so my advice would be just go for it . Its always better to regret something you have done than something you have not

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