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nursery fined £60,00 very sad story

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doormat · 30/10/2003 16:23

Have a look at this
very sad news story.

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bossykate · 30/10/2003 16:31

i saw it, doormat. doesn't sound like much does it? why couldn't they charge the person responsible with a criminal offence? anyone know?

bossykate · 30/10/2003 16:31

i mean "it doesn't sound like much of a punishment..."

salt · 30/10/2003 16:33

My dd goes to this nursery and although it is a very tragic/awful event. The nursery is actually very good and the staff are wonderful. My dd didn't go there at the time and the employee was laid off before I arrived.

doormat · 30/10/2003 16:35

I dont know bossykate
Just seen it on sky news and thought it was not even a slap on the wrist.
I think the person responsible should be charged and go to jail for a long time.
Why dont they check up on these things, they had a written warning.

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ks · 30/10/2003 16:38

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salt · 30/10/2003 16:48

Jigsaws Report

I am a link virgin so hope this works.

doormat · 30/10/2003 17:01

read that report salt
sorry seems like "it wasnt our fault but tragic"

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LIZS · 30/10/2003 17:12

This is just so sad. However doesn't the assumption that a 5.5 month old baby needs cereal in the morning rather fly in the face of the WHO recommendation advising weaning from 6 months which should especially apply to babies with potential allergies. Not clear if he otherwise had a solid diet at nursery.

whymummy · 30/10/2003 17:14

really sad story

ks · 30/10/2003 17:30

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alibubbles · 30/10/2003 17:45

Jiogsaw had a very poor training record well before this sad affair. Ofsted state that less that 10% of their staff have completed any formal traing since 1999.

I get a couple of enquiries a week for a baby space from people wanting to move their baby out of my local Jigsaw nursery, depsite me being 25% more expensive than Jigsaw, - they reduc ed their fees recently.

My current baby is ex Jigsaw, he was always being sent home for being 'ill" he has not had a days illness in 9 months with me yet sent home from Jigsaw at least 1 or 2 days a week in the first 3 months with a typical teething nappy, interpreted as 'severe diarrhoea'

Many a time the mum would find only one member of staff in the baby room and volunteer to wait until the 'late' member of staff turned up, but often she'd have to leave and the staff member still hadn't arrived. She felt very uncomfortable leaving her baby with only one person in the baby room.

They are always advertising for staff, and as I am registered with a nanny agency I often get called to see if I can do cover work for them.

Read this report if you want to find out more Jigsaw ofsted

ks · 30/10/2003 18:11

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marialuisa · 30/10/2003 18:24

The report from Jigsaw's PR machine is appalling. If I were the parent i'd be devastated. An allergy is an allergy, it's not up to nursery staff to try and decide what is serious or not, and however mild the allergy may have been, only someone seriously dim would suggest that it's ok to give something containing the allergen.

BadHair · 30/10/2003 20:40

Whilst the Jigsaw "interview" is obviously going to present them in the best possible light, I don't think its helpful to get into nursery-bashing. Many nurseries have a high staff turnover due to a high proportion of the workforce being young and mobile careerwise. This shouldn't, and usually doesn't, prevent them from providing excellent quality care standards, and no, nurseries are no more profitable than any other business when you consider the cost of premises, staff recruitment, salaries, training, equipment etc.
Whilst this poor baby's death is so terribly tragic, perhaps those of us who use nurseries could learn something from it. It's up to us to provide detailed, accurate, clear, written information on our children's health and diets, and if we drop them off at unusual times, to leave a clear request as to what meal/drink we want the nursery to provide and when.
We need to make sure that our nurseries do just as we want them to, and if that means coming across like a parent from hell, then so be it.

BadHair · 30/10/2003 20:46

Actually I'm really lucky in that I have an excellent nursery, and they, like all good childcare providers, don't mind a bit if I bang on about what my kids should and shouldn't have. And they stick to it to (although DS1 tells me he's been giving the "nasty" bits of his lunch to his friend, so I take it he's not had his veg).

robinw · 31/10/2003 07:28

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carriemac · 31/10/2003 13:58

at least one of the parents was a doctor btw

robinw · 01/11/2003 07:32

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robinw · 02/11/2003 08:36

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singingmum · 02/11/2003 11:12

Am in shock had heard nothing about this.How on earth can they write such a heartless and insane report.The fine is despicable also.Why did they give the baby milk when they knew he was allergic.The severity of the allergy surely shouldn't matter.
I don't blame the parents for seeking justice as so far they seem to have been denied.

WSM · 04/11/2003 14:17

Only just caught up with this story. Truly heartbreaking stuff, makes me extra glad to be SAHM if I'm honest.

Slinky · 04/11/2003 14:45

I work in a children's day nursery and this story absolutely horrified me.

In each "room" at our nursery, we have a large wall-mounted chart detailing ALL allergies/food intolerances/asthma/ezcema etc of each child. We are told time and time again to check and double check these boards - essential if we are new to a room or providing sickness/holiday cover in other rooms.

Up until this week, I worked with the "3-5s" and we only had a couple of food allergies. Since yesterday, I have transferred into the "2-3s" and back to learning childrens names and consulting the "allergy" board.

Yesterday, we were eating our lunch and a little boy desperately wanted some of my satsuma and kept trying to grab it and asking for some. I was too scared to give him any in case he wasn't allowed any (although no known allergies in his case).

Even when I have friends of my DDs/DS round to play and they are staying for dinner - I ALWAYS ask parents if they have any allergies/intolerances etc - most of the parents look at me as though I am mad

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