if you recieved a set of minutes at work...........

[Tortington]

which used phrases like

"custardo interuppted..."
or "custardo critisised the letter...."

would it piss you off?

in itself if it ran through the minutes and applied to everyone maybe i wouldn't care but other people seemed to be refered to with less infuriating language

" mr council worker wanted...."
" mr council worker explained..."
mr council worker endorsed....."
"mr council worker said..."

is it me or is this rather harsh language - we have such a varied language i fail to see why other less emotive words could not be used.

i do feel a little seperated from the rest of the workers due to job role and the fact they are all fuckwits.

anyway

what are your thoughts?

yes would be pissed off

unnecessary in minutes - what is she a failed novelist?

clearly a f**kwit, with spelling like that

That sounds very rude!

Today, I have been minuting (voluntary stuff), and I'm always very careful to say "X was concerned", when I even bother with attribution. I normally only give names when it comes to "X will do blah blah blah".

rude and unprofessional
pmsl at i do feel a little seperated from the rest of the workers due to job role and the fact they are all fuckwits

That's v unprofessional minuting. Bet you WERE interrupting though

Would be massively pissed off. Can you complain?

Not on.

Don't agree and speak with minute-taker.

Stock phrases include - Gomez raised concerns around blah, blah

Whilst generally accepteable improvements could made made to the ...... and Gomez agreed to explore in advance of the next meeting.

The minute should reflect the content of the discussion not provide a verbatium copy so that fact that you interrupted is immaterial.

Unecessarily abrasive I think. There are definitely less emotive words that could be used. At the next meeting there would presumably be a chance for you to ask for the minutes to be changed before they are approved.

another reason to bin meetings

Nah, Enid meetings are good they mean you don't have to do any real work, if you are sly you leave with no actions and you get to stroll about the office looking important. They rock .

i have one meeting where a particular person always calls for a round of applause for another person

it is CRINGISSIMO

Oh dear, Enid. I would have to repress barfing sounds. Vile.

More likely to get b*llocked at the meetings I attend than receive a round of applause.

Both humiliating in their own sweet way however.

That sounds vomitworthy Enid
Agree with everyone here custy, fuckwits or not they should be sticking to organisational guidelines on objectivity and non-judgmental terminology in committee papers.
I bet you were sorely provoked .
OMG, if they resorted to this sort of stuff for my workplace we'd all be in big trouble (Marina burst into tears and threw library statistics at annoying little man from internal audit etc)

Hmm, now I'm rethinking my minutes from last night ... could have said "NQC then gleefully explained threadworms to all present, for no very good reason. X now believes her DS1 probably has threadworms. Y is very much grossed out. And Z kept saying 'it comes out of their what?'" Definately would have been a better read than the current minutes.

Enid, is it always the same person who gets the applause?

And could you start suggesting you all "boo" at someone else, just to keep things balanced?

Yes, I would be pissed off. (Wasn't sure at first if you were moaning at the crap spelling in the minutes).

Seriously though, I agree, it's crucial that minutes of conversations/meetings are accurate and objective and using emotive language, especially inconsistently, is not objective.

How come the person writing the minutes has some sort of agenda?

I would be tempted to raise this as an issue or do you think it's pointless because they really are all fuckwits?

yes, the person who wrote those is clearly trying to provoke you (very impressed that you use your mumsnet name in work tho...)

'i do feel a little seperated from the rest of the workers due to job role and the fact they are all fuckwits'

Have managed to avoid contact with work related meeting all my life until last year, now find myself on 3 committees. Are there any good guide available to surviving the fuckwits of the world??

I hated meetings when I worked. And if they were going too slow, I'd take them over and make them happen quickly. I think it annoyed people, and made them go against whatever I wanted, but I didn't care, anything to end a meeting!

I may start doing this at my volunteer committee type things, only I don't mind those so much. Often I knit through them, though ... unless I'm minuting.

your all dead funny! thanks - cheered me up no end

i did write e-mail explaining my concerns will raise them at next meeting - but feel muchio better that you think same cos i know i will be seen as picky pedant non council worker woman.

i think its just cos its a london council rather than another agenda- whilst not wishing to tar every london council bod with same brush i feel stuck in 1982 at these meetings with underhand sexist remarks and such - not experienced this for yonks so was quite shocked.
this was my first meeting in something thats been emotive and allowed to run for fking years. everyone involved is fuckwit. so i plan to stamp out nasty references and snidey comments from 40 year old men with my abrupt northerness as an excuse
ta muchio very much appreciated

Expect to see "Custardo whinged about the language of the minutes from the last meeting" in the next set then.

lmao - you're sooo right

Custardo - you are kind of in a parallel but opposite universe to me. I'm a Southerner working for a Housing Assoc up North. For the most part my organisation is pretty right on but there are still a few 40 something men in middle management (who are only in management because they were promoted long ago when there were only about 6 peopel in the company - i.e. they're incompetent)who think they can get away with sexist shite.

I had one boss (in Maintenance - all blokey) who, when I first worked for him, used to say "good girl" when I did something right. Southerner or not I found myself able to be pretty blunt in exaplaining how I felt about that one. He never did it again.

These kind of organisations are the hardest to change. So many dinosours (and fuckwits, as you say).

these are local Government employees Custy? Oh, throw Citrine on Chairmanship at them! And if they have never heard of this authoritative work on conduct of public sector meetings, they should be sacked!