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Is 'what?' really the correct thing to say when you don't hear something??

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Twiglett · 13/11/2005 13:45

as opposed to 'Pardon' or whatever

If it is, why is it?

I remember reading it somewhere

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hunkermunker · 13/11/2005 15:24

I've heard, not I hear. I don't have the voices...not yet!

hunkermunker · 13/11/2005 15:25

LOL NN! Honestly, that was her intonation. God, that woman. Evil on legs. Nasty, nasty, nasty person.

carla · 13/11/2005 15:26

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Nightynight · 13/11/2005 15:26

not quite comme il faut, then

thats pure hypocrisy when you consider how many french words they added to the english language after the norman conquest
pork, mutton, poultry etc etc.

ks · 13/11/2005 15:26

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Nightynight · 13/11/2005 15:28

its got to be a bit posh to be a drawing room, surely?
I reckon if your house is 20th century, its got to be a sitting room! You can only get away with a drawing room if youve got 18th or 19th century ceilings!

Lonelymum · 13/11/2005 15:28

Sorry lost track here. Are you saying words that originated in french are considered vulgar? Surely not? And are looking glass and sitting room of French origin or their alternatives?

Nightynight · 13/11/2005 15:30

yes, a few x posts ago....I think nancy mitford and her snobbish circle were down on people who used recently imported french words - trying to seem sophisticated.
so serviette, mirror, toilet were out for that reason.

Star bellied sneetches, the lot of'em

ks · 13/11/2005 15:33

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twirlaround · 13/11/2005 15:34

Pardon is definitely common...but "what" can sound rude...

hunkermunker · 13/11/2005 15:35

Reminds me of the bit in Bottom (God, I am SO upper class!) - Eddie's trying to get his head round Richie talking about the drawing room to the police and he calls it the colouring-in room and the sketching room

Nightynight · 13/11/2005 15:36

Saloon - ROFL! thats nowt but a vulgar import from french....Id expect it to have batwing doors!

Lonelymum · 13/11/2005 15:39

Funny, i grew up with serviette (though I have noticed my parents now refer to them as napkins) but toilet was considered rather vulgar - lavatory was (and still is in my parents' book) the correct word. And of course sitting room.

But some of these words are common parlance to all surely, eg mirror. As someone said earlier, who refers to it as a looking glass now?

carla · 13/11/2005 15:41

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Tortington · 13/11/2005 15:51

is "Are you deaf?" the correct reply to your partially deaf daughter?

ks · 13/11/2005 15:52

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Lonelymum · 13/11/2005 15:53

Yes they did. Not sure why or when.

spidermama · 13/11/2005 15:58

My mum used to say that it's common to say, 'pardon?' and correct to say 'what?'.
It's all part of the old U and Non-U rules of language which we're not so hung up on as we used to be. My mum used to call a mirror a 'glass' but she had to drop that because noone knew what on earth she was on about.

I hear kids in the playground saying, 'what?' and their mums saying 'No. It's pardon'.

I prefer 'what?'.

Take your choice. I prefer 'what?'. It's more straightforward.

Twiglett · 13/11/2005 18:02

when do you have supper then?

(I was brought up with breakfast, lunch and dinner btw)

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zippitippitoes · 13/11/2005 18:09

supper is at bedtime or informal late evening if you only had afternoon tea or high tea and not dinner

or supper is bohemian way of having friends round when you don't have dinner parties

ks · 13/11/2005 18:23

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SenoraPostrophe · 13/11/2005 18:29

I really don't understand this kind of snobbery.

we do usually say "what?" though.

ks · 13/11/2005 18:30

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Twiglett · 13/11/2005 18:31

Just looked up Mitford and in her glossary

House is U, Home is Non-U

Rich is U, Wealthy is Non-U

Sick is U, Ill is Non-U

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Mytwopenceworth · 13/11/2005 19:00

i think it is very hard to say 'what' without it sounding rude. i think the reason for this is it is a very 'clipped' word - if you get what i mean and it is hard to get the right tone for 'please repeat' use!

i tend to say, 'i didn't catch that', or 'could you repeat that' as i think 'pardon' sounds like I've burped or farted!!