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whymummy · 18/09/2003 18:01

we had some really sad news at ds school today a girl in year 6 was killed last night while playing on the railway tracks,everyone was so sad today and although i dont know this girl or her family i feel like i should show the family how sorry we are but i dont know wether to take some flowers into school tomorrow or just a card,any advise would be very appretiated
thank you

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beetroot · 18/09/2003 18:23

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whymummy · 18/09/2003 18:32

thanks beetroot
she was electrocuted while playing with her twin brother

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beetroot · 18/09/2003 18:34

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Jimjams · 18/09/2003 19:04

Oh awful. A card would be good (so many bereaved are avoided iykwim I think any gesture is good)

whymummy · 18/09/2003 19:12

thanks jimjams and beetroot i will take a card in tomorrow,i can`t get it out of my mind

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Janstar · 18/09/2003 19:19

Seen it on the news. Yes it was just awful and I think giving cards etc at a time like this is the only thing left to do. So sorry.

bossykate · 18/09/2003 20:03

agree with everyone else, card but not flowers. also, agree with jimjams, best not to shun the bereaved as though it is somehow catching...

CnR · 18/09/2003 21:12

A card with kind words would be good I think.

When a child died at the school I worked at - knocked off his bike, no helmet - the school also had a special assembly and a memorial service later. Pupils were invited to bring in cards, etc. to that too.

viv2003 · 18/09/2003 21:44

That is so sad. Take in a card and if you can just put a few lines to say you are thinking of them and your thoughts are with them.
It doesnt matter that you dont know them.

mieow · 18/09/2003 22:49

When I was 12 a boy in my class was electrocuted playing on a sub-station. My parents sent a card and some flowers too.

sunchowder · 19/09/2003 01:45

I agree with everyone on the card, after the funeral,maybe some parents can get together to have a tree planted in her memory at the school with a plaque honoring her memory. It is so sad, I can't imagine their devastation at this time. Delivering something homemade to the house may also be a comfort to them (breads, cassroles). I know you don't know them at all, perhaps a basket of fruit with the card?

Ghosty · 19/09/2003 04:57

whymummy ... what a horrible thing to have happened. Agree with everyone about the card. Hugs {{{{}}}}}

doormat · 19/09/2003 06:35

Oh whymummy how sad.The card is a lovely idea.

whymummy · 19/09/2003 09:48

thank you all for your messages,it took me ages to write the card didn`t know what to say but i did and handed it over to the headmaster who was very grateful,there were lots of 9 and 10 year olds with red eyes this morning
thanks again

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Frenchgirl · 19/09/2003 10:53

That's terrible wm, I'm sure they'll appreciate the card. How are your kids coping with this?

whymummy · 19/09/2003 11:17

hi frenchgirl
ds is only 5 and i didnt think hell be affected but last night he started crying and asking lots of questions then he said "mummy i didn`t know the kids in my school could die"bless him,then this morning when i left him at school he told me not to cross the railway lines so it has affected him more than i thought

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binker · 19/09/2003 11:20

I agree that a card would be a very thoughtful idea - when my younger brother died we got lots of very kind cards and letters from people - some from parents at school - even now some thirty years later I feel very touched and moved by reading them. We watched the reporting of the accident on Newsround and I warned my son about the dangers of trains and railway lines. It also reminded me of my rather bullying older cousin encouraging us to cross railway lines when out at play - it makes me shudder to think of it now.

Frenchgirl · 19/09/2003 11:28

oh wm, poor old ds, it's so hard to understand death when you're small, do you know if the children can talk to someone at school about this?

whymummy · 19/09/2003 11:35

they have sent two educational psychologists to work alongside the staff to support the children specially those in year 6 we`ve been told to discuss their feelings and to respond to their questions as simply and truthfully as possible wich is what i did last night but still hard for ds to understand

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whymummy · 19/09/2003 11:42

binker i missed your message,sorry about your brother,nice to know you found confort from the cards and letters you received

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waterbaby · 19/09/2003 11:56

Hi wm, have you talked to the school about how they are handling this, and what support they have?

They may not know (lots don't) but there is a lot of support out there for the school, not just in the form of counsellors etc but behind the scenes help, e.g. literature that could give to the parents (about the signs of grief/anxiety in kids at different ages) or used in the classroom, Emergency Planning staff from the district council who can help put the school in touch with other supportive bodies, or plan how to handle similar situations, other people who could help support the staff, including teachers who have experienced similar situations and can help advise staff on what to expect in the days, weeks, months and even years after a disaster. Its not all psycho-social stuff, there are practical tips too.

There are lots of 'lessons learnt' from other schools that have suffered bereavement too, about how they handled everything from the initial phone call and telling the kids, through to impact on exams etc much later in the year, anniversaries and memorials.

I firmly believe that schools can give a lot of stability to communities, who have suffered a disaster or bereavement like this, but the teachers have so much to do already, and are often bereaved themselves, so having support in place and knowing how to access it when you need it is important.

Kids pick up on the littlest things, while there is no easy way to deal with the situation there are some little things that might make each day easier for staff, pupils, and the wider community.

Heart goes out to you and DS; when I get home I'll dig out some links and references that might help you understand how children of his age grieve or are affected by grief around them. From memory it can be things like reverting to bedwetting, not liking to be by themselves or have loved ones leave, misbehaving... and doesn't have to happen now - could be weeks later, you just have to be aware that it might be connected. Your doing the right thing by talking to him and keeping the channels open for his questions.

Might be worth asking his teacher how they introduce death at school - its in the curriculum now I think, but they often talk about Pets first not people, and might choose to use certain words/ books etc, these are often available for you to borrow just to see what the school is doing. Hope this has helped a bit - am dredging my brain now ? sorry to go on - this was my dissertation topic!

waterbaby · 19/09/2003 11:59

Sorry wm, refresh problems - looks like they have got some support, but may not have the behind the scenes stuff in place. A bit like the social services situation, we're not very joined up yet in this country about disaster management.

whymummy · 19/09/2003 13:14

thank you waterbaby i`ve copied your message and i will leave it at the school reception i will also appretiate any information about my sons age group like you suggested he might not talk about it anymore but is best to be prepared,thank you

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waterbaby · 23/09/2003 15:51

Sorry WM, we've had PC problems, I'll send you an email via MN tonight, with my contact details in case the school want any more info. Hope you are all getting through each day at a time. {{{{{{{}}}}}}

whymummy · 23/09/2003 16:16

thank you so much waterbaby,he hasn't mention anything this week but the funeral is on friday and it might bring it all back,that poor family

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