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On the piste.........!!!

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ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 21:58

Hi - I don't know if you are thinking of taking the little darlings skiing this year, but I can offer a few words of advice. Driving to the Alps is terrific provided that you stock up with plenty of booze at the Duty Free shops and don't try and do it in one go. You'll need the booze in your village as night life with youngsters is prohibitive or non-existant.

Invest in a portable DVD player, a couple of pairs of headphones an i-pods for each child and a psp or other divice for each child. That'll smooth the journey and will pay dividends once you are in the Alps.

Of course, ski school is de rigeur! It will keep the children out of your hair for a couple of hours eacn morning and you can have some fun for yourself.

Self catering is definately the order of the day - provided that you stick to a routine - no matter whether your children are infants or aged 12, children should be in bed by 19:30 each evening to allow you and your partner a few hours to yourselves. You must not compromise on this point. They should be tired from exercise, altitude and the heady atmosphere of mountain life and if not, they cannot have been trying that much!!

A great company from which to rent a property is Interhome based in Twickenham. They manage literally hundreds of thousands of properties on their books and are brilliant whether things go right or start to go wrong. Their number can be found from a simmple google search. No I don't work for them or have any pecuniary interest, just have been skiing too many times!

The next word of advice I give is that you should not try to be too ambitious. The first time you go skiing, just book 3 days ski school and don't go for longer than a week. In this way, if children really don't like it, then they have only a very short time in ski school and if they do like it.... well the few extra francs/euro won't make that much difference.

Bear in mind that skiing is very, very expensive -almost double that of a summer holiday. Our usual summer holiday for one week costs roughly £4,500 and our skiing holiday between £4,000 and £7,500 depending on what extra equipment we buy for that year.

Get you car serviced a couple of weeks before you go. Invest in snow tyres AND snow chains. If you have a diesel car make sure that the glow plugs are working properly. Most mornings the temperature is well below freezing (this year it was -35 every monring in Switzerland in February!) and you do need to have the car start first time. Mine had a problem and it would take 40 minutes or so getting the car to start. It eventually expired due to the strain that the temperature placed on the battery. Very expensive!

Cooking at altitude takes longer than at most height in the UK. For example, a perfect 3 minute egg will take 4 minutes in Val d'Isere but 5 minutes in Zermatt. It depends on the height.

If budget is a constraint (and it is for all of us!), then look to the smaller resort that shares the same facility. For example, if you usually ski in Verbier, then consider the chalets and apartments in Nendaz - gets to the same slopes far quicker than those from Verbier (or herpes valley) and at a fraction of the cost.

Anyway there's a few ramblings to whet your appetite.

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marthamoo · 11/10/2005 22:01

We have a sports topic? Since when?

marthamoo · 11/10/2005 22:02

Blimey, it's been around for ages. Blame PE, I come over all funny at the mention of sport...

JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:02

I thought I'd find you here moo!

did you misread the title?

marthamoo · 11/10/2005 22:03

Yes, I thought it said chocolate.

ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:03

Well, I hope you are felleing yourself now, mnarthamoo!

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marthamoo · 11/10/2005 22:03

I'm not quite sure how to take that comment !

ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:04
Smile
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JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:06

moo! run for your life - its a man!

JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:07

and he does karate!

haaaaaaaaaaaaar-at!

marthamoo · 11/10/2005 22:08

Oh my giddy aunt, surely not? I've come over all faint.

ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:09

Hey don't worry about my gender!! Everyone surely has a little EJ in their life, don't they?

No seriously - very happily married, have just got my 1st Dan have 2 lovely sons and a gorgeous wife. We celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary in a couple of years.

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LIZS · 11/10/2005 22:12

Police may stop you when you reach the bottom of access roads to resorts and demand you put on chains and/or check you have 4-wheel drive if the road is covered in snow or it is snowing heavier than the ploughs can clear it. Agree with the snow tyres too, expensive though it may seem - it is so often overlooked by British drivers but do make a difference on snowy and icy roads. The inquiry into the British coach accident in Germany last year, en route to Austria, in which some Brits died, found no evidence of mechanical failure but the road was snowy and the coach had normal tyres on.

Personally I'm not sure I'd drive it with young kids from UK and your car is often redundant once you arrive so you pay to park it for a week. If you can get cheap flights and book the accommodation separately you can still undercut the tour operators.

JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:19

I'm all Joned out I'm afraid!

ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:19

Still you mustn't forget that you are on holiday. There are plenty of other things to do where a car will open up all sorts of opportunities for you.

That the main reason for being in the mountains might be to ski, suppose that there is no snow?

For instance, Grindelwald is not far from the Reichenbach Falls (where Sherlock Holmes met his death) and Villars has some open air thermal baths in the valley a half hour drive away. Local buses don't always co-incide with your plans, particaularly if they are spur of the moment sort of things.

The other advantage of a car is to use the journey as part of the holiday - a week magically becomes 10 days with a stopover in Luxembourg or Germany or Austria or almost anywhere in Europe. You can also pack all the things that you canot possibly haul in a suitcase just to keep the peace.

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JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:21

Ah! - I beg to differ - the reason for being in the mountains is to WALK - love them in the summer.

Tell me - Grindelwald, Wengen and Murren - I've heard one of them is not very good but I can't remember which - I may get there one day - its on my wish list!

ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:26

I am not a walker. Wengen is the expensive one but the best from which to explore that part of the Bernese Oberland. It is car free - sounds great but those beastly electric taxis' come up behind you and leave nasty marks in underwear!

Murren is perched on a plateau and while I haven't been there for many years is pretty enough but lacking in culture. My favourite is Grindelwald in that it has all the best features of the other resorts, but the drawback is that it is rather sprawling. At least there aren't too many Britons braying at each other (typical of Wengen - and especially so in January/February time).

Check out the Eiger Sanction for some period shots (1960's)

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ErogenousJones · 11/10/2005 22:28

Wlkaing - what about Italy? Villages such as Corvara and Selva are fantastic and children are adored by the Italians - though I cannot imagine why!!

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JoolsToo · 11/10/2005 22:56

I have stayed in Selva and Ortisei - absolute magic.

Also been walking in Obergurgl

all children grown up

LIZS · 12/10/2005 09:53

We love Wengen and Muerren but are less keen on Grindelwald , which is larger and has a road running through it whereas the others are set up a moutain, only accessible by train, so you feel more as if you are actually staying away from it all up in the mountains. You would not need a car to get around as the mountain trains and connections to Interlaken and beyond are excellent. In high season it can be difficult to get a parking spot in the Lauterbrunnen garage as you can only reserve for a week or more. The overflow car parks are away from the station.

Don't stay in Interlaken - it is a touristy hole in comparison! If you go in winter though be aware that many of the summer attarctions such as the Reichenbach falls(Meiringen), Trummelbach falls(Lauterbrunnen) and Schynigge Platte gardens(Wilderswil) are not open. In summer you can walk across from Grindelwald to Meiringen and use connecting buses for all or part of the trip either way. The Jungfraujoch is open year around and well worth a visit(and cost!) on a clear day at whatever time of year - we took the kids up this summer and they loved it.

imho this area knocks spots of Selva and even Chamonix, Jools too ! It is also probably not as expensive as its reputation especially if you book direct with the hotels.

JoolsToo · 12/10/2005 11:03

thanks LIZS - that's really useful info

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