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Cubs, Beavers, Scouts, how does this all work?

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puff · 02/10/2005 22:04

Which group do they start first? How old do they have to be? What age do they join the next group? Is it fun?

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SleepySuzy · 02/10/2005 22:05

Beavers, Cubs then Scouts - my mum used to be the district beaver leader!!

SleepySuzy · 02/10/2005 22:06

they start aged 6

gigglinggoblin · 02/10/2005 22:07

thay have to be 6 to join beavers, think it is 8 for cubs. ds1 loves it and ds2 cant wait to go. def recommend it

puff · 02/10/2005 22:07

Brill SS, thanks for the info . Ds1's not old enough yet, but he sees boys in their uniforms round here and wants one!

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puff · 02/10/2005 22:07

thanks gigglin

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SleepySuzy · 02/10/2005 22:14

I think he'll love it when he's old enuff.

paolosgirl · 02/10/2005 22:32

Beavers from 6-8, them cubs til don't know when, then scouts. My DS goes to Beavers and loves it! I am full of admiration for anyone that spends an evening a week and some weekends controlling 20 playful and very noisy boys . of course the word 'beaver' also induces much hilarity in the local dad population

Janh · 02/10/2005 22:54

It's roughly KS1 for Beavers, KS2 for Cubs and KS3 for Scouts - same with Rainbows, Brownies and Guides for girls. But varies with pack and waiting lists etc.

Janh · 02/10/2005 22:55

And when their birthday is and when the oldest ones move on to the next group to make space.

paolosgirl · 02/10/2005 22:59

KS doesn't exist in Scotland, so it depends where you live as to whether it's a KS (key stage?) thing or an age thing

Janh · 02/10/2005 23:02

Infants, juniors and secondary then.

(I don't believe puff is in Scotland though )

paolosgirl · 02/10/2005 23:04

And we don't have infants and juniors! Its nursery, then primary, then high school. My english childhood and scottish adulthood has given me a good insight into the quirks of both systems

Janh · 02/10/2005 23:12

It is an age thing, not a school thing, in both places, AFAIK - but thinking of it in terms of school makes it easier to remember what happens when.

No Key Stages means no SATs, then? Lucky you!

ks · 02/10/2005 23:13

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Janh · 02/10/2005 23:18

Only when you go there, dear.

popmum · 02/10/2005 23:22

should put their name down though as in some areas they can get busy. find out who the local leader is - through web or libary or poster somewhere

butterflymum · 02/10/2005 23:57

If anyone in Northern Ireland is looking in on this thread, there you have the added choice of 'Squirrels' (albeit not fully under the scouting umbrella). They start at 4yrs.

ScarySkribble · 03/10/2005 01:33

The good packs get full up and names have to be put down very early.

They are very strict on background checks even for parent helpers (maybe just our pack). But styles of leadership do vary. My DS started a beaver pack locally and I was shocked, no control what so ever. The second night I dropped him off I got hit full in the face with a football . She just let them run about and play football. He is now with another pack at my MIL's church and the leaders a great a good mix of personalities.

He is now a Cub and went on a camp this summer. He loved that midnight walks and water fights. Some nights they go to the local park and play games (even in the dark ), last week they went to the local college and used the computers.

puff · 03/10/2005 09:30

I'll try to put his name down then (he's 4) as I know it's very popular round here.

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Katherine · 03/10/2005 10:24

ds started when he was 5 3/4 but DD is going to be 6 when she goes as they are busier now and we need to wait for some to "go up". Its for girls as well as boys now - girls don't have to do the raibows, browines etc route. Beavers tend to do more exciting things.

There is also the WoodCraft Folk which are similar but without the religious background. Think they sound great but our nearest group is an hour away so sticking with beavers (not very religious anyway)

ScarySkribble · 03/10/2005 22:02

Not all packs take girls, DS's doesn't. Wonder if the local Rainbows take boys .

hewlettsdaughter · 03/10/2005 22:16

DS (6) is currently trying the Woodcraft Folk. He will be trying Beavers too. We couldn't decide which to send him to so we're letting him make the decision!

jacobsmummy · 03/10/2005 22:45

my dd (aged 10) is a scout as went camping with them, she loves it and a few other girls go too.

I think she woulf find brownies and guides just far too prissy!

KBear · 03/10/2005 22:54

We were talking about this at church parade on Sunday (halo for me) - girls can join scouts so presumably boys can join brownies - but would they want to???? I always wanted to be a Scout when I was a Guide - not that we didn't have a great time in Guides but because the Scouts were allowed to build an aerial runway at camp!

popmum · 03/10/2005 23:31

ScarySkribble & others - the scouts are changing in the next few years - i have this on good authority - and ALL packs/ units HAVE to accept girls onto waiting lists NOW and into the packs when the time comes. So if you have a girl approaching the right age who wants to go, get her name down on the list. Contact Scout HQ in London if the local unit gets funny about it

Guides (rainbows) etc do not take boys - a decision made at a national level.

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