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We all know how much our friends mean to us.....

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QueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2005 01:27

but have you ever wondered how much you mean to your friends??

warning very long waffle coming up - please feel free to answer the question without reading the rest of the post.

I've just been sat here thinking about it. Got a really close friend - haven't even known her 1yr yet, but we get on really, really well. Both got African DH's, and our DS's are similar ages (so DS1's were at nursery together last year, and DS2's will go together in a couple of years).

We met up several times over the summer holidays and I've really valued her friendship when things have been so blooming tight moneywise, and stresseful.

Last wednesday I called her and invited her DS's to DS1's birthday party on Saturday. However, before I invited them I asked how she was and she told me her little brother (34yrs old) was in a critical condition in hospital and not expected to make it. She thought her Ds's may make it to my party - I told her not worry if they couldn't come and she had to come up to Scotland to see her brother - and not to bother calling me.

Friday afternoon I decided to call and ask how her brother was, no answer, so left a message on her answer phone - when she didn't call back at all on Friday I had a horrible sinking feeling. Which was sadly confirmed on the Saturday morning. When she called to tell me her DS's couldn't come to the party (and therefore my DS wouldn't get his present )as her little brother had died on the Friday . He was 34 and had an 11yr old son too.

In between me telling her not to worry about it and giving my condolences, and her fighting back tears on the phone she told the funeral was going to be on Wednesday (yesterday) and she'd be back on Thursday (today). Stressed again to her not to worry, and to take care of herself and we left it there.

Sorry I know I'm going on, just need to get this off my chest.

Anyhow, today 6pm she called me to say she was back. Told me how the week, and funeral, had gone and how it still hadn't really sunk in (he'd only been taken ill last Monday). I told her she was welcome to come over for a coffee and a chat any time she wanted (I've always got an 'open door' policy in my house anyhow) and she said she may pop over tomorrow. At which point she had to go and put her boys to bed, and I had to bath mine.

This got me thinking, although I've viewed her as a close friend for quite some time, I've never been sure how she viewed me (close friend, friend, accquaintance etc etc). Always thought I was "just a friend" (but that could be my self confidence thing as I don't think I've ever thought that anyone else saw me as their close friend ).

She got back at 4.30pm this afternoon, after a long drive back down with her boys on her own (they're 15months and 4yrs) and knowing her routine with them they'd have eaten as they both crash at around 6.30pm. It dawned on me I was probably one of the first people she called after getting back and (as silly and stupid as this sounds) have been quite shocked/stunned/suprised (don't know what the word is I'm looking for really) that she presumably considers me a close friend too...

She's almost certainly going to come over tomorrow afternoon for coffee, which will be exactly one week since her DB died. I'm so worried I'm going to say something stupid and upset her, I think I can honestly say this is the first time in my life that I've ever felt that I "mean" something to one of my close friends, and that perhaps I am actually someone elses close friend.

Gosh I don't even know what I'm trying to say anymore, probably read like a pile of poo. But it does feel better getting it off my chest, whatever it was.

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moozoboozo · 23/09/2005 01:42

Your poor friend Its good she has a close friend (ie you!!) she can turn to.

I have a couple of friends who I have similar relationships with, who I never really saw as close friends, until something terrible happened to me/them, which then made me re evaluate our friendships and made me realise that we were a lt closer than I made out.

I'll give you an example, I was assaulted by my primary headteacher whan I was 21, and one friend was brilliant. I hadn't really spoken to her for months, but when she found out, she would ring me constantly to see how I was, and she would come and sit with me at 1am if I needed her to.

Recently, my next door neighbour and I have become quite good friends. I was totally honoured that I, after her DH was the first person she told about her pregnancy. She told me before she had even told her Mum!! I felt so shocked that she had chosen me to tell!!!!

So, yes. I think in times like this, you realise how much we really do mean to our friends.

ghosty · 23/09/2005 01:51

QoQ ... you obviously mean a lot to your friend and she is so lucky to have you . You are clearly a good friend otherwise she won't have called you and let her feelings out.
I know how you feel ... I have often had crashes of confidence in the past when I have felt that a friend does not see me in the same light as I see her. I had a wonderful friend years ago whom I adored and turned to for anything and everything. It hurt me a lot when I realised a few years into our friendship that she didn't see me like that and she turned to another person for support when she was feeling down (a mutual friend of ours). It took me a long time to get over that and I had to rethink my friendship with her as I felt very much that things were not equal and she looked down on me. We are still friends but it is very different now. I stopped turning to her in order to protect myself I suppose.
Having said that, I have just this very morning had a similar experience to you ...
I have a wonderful friend who I met about 2 years ago. We have a lot of fun together and laugh a lot and can talk for hours. But up until today I wasn't sure how she saw me in terms of 'close' friendship.
She told me this morning that she has been diagnosed with PND and that she hasn't told anyone, only her husband. Not even her oldest and best friends know. I felt honoured that she felt she could tell me this ... we had a bit of a cry together and a hug (I had PND after DS so I know what it is like) ... one of her reasons for not telling anyone was that she doesn't want people to treat her differently or her friends to judge her (she is known as being a 'coper') and the reason she told me is that she said she trusts me and knows that our friendship won't change and that I will always treat her the same.

Maybe that is what your friend sees in you ... that she trusts you and knows that you are there for you?

You won't say anything wrong when you see eachother ... she just wants your company and your friendship as it has been probably. She has been through a terrible time and she probably needs to see someone unconnected with her family so that she can get her head together ... and it is great that she trusts you with that task ...

Just give her that cup of coffee and lend that sympathetic ear to what she wants to say (or not as the case may be) ... let her take the lead ...

HTH ... sorry for the waffly post too

QueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2005 01:55

Thanks moozoo - glad you managed to make some sense of my ramblings.

Another thing (which she pointed out) was that her DB had died on my DS1's birthday (I guess at least I'll never have an excuse for forgetting the anniversary of his death). And even stranger was that the funeral (yesterday) would have been my Gran's birthday - but she passed away last October

I guess although I've always had people I've considered as "my" close friends, I never really thought anyone classed "me" as a close friend.

Anyhow, I'm waffling again, should really sleep - have to play for a service (funeral) at church in the morning. And then friend (probably) coming over tomorrow afternoon, then choir practice in the evening...

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QueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2005 01:56

thanks Ghosty - x posts - shall reply to yours in the morning -

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ghosty · 23/09/2005 01:57

Sleep well ...

myturn · 23/09/2005 02:09

QoQ. You don't need to say anything. Just being there to lisen will be enough. You have obviously been a fabulous friend and you deserve to have someone appreciate that. Hope it all goes well tomorrow. Night. x

moozoboozo · 23/09/2005 02:12

Yes, good luck tomorrow. All you need to do is listen and provide tea and choccie biccies. If you did that for me, you'd be my friend forever

myturn · 23/09/2005 02:18

Yeah and me

Kazziegirl · 23/09/2005 08:18

I think she definitely considers you a good friend. It's the hardest and saddest times in our lives that makes us realise who is there for us and you have proved this to your friend. I'm sure you'll know exactly what to do and say as soon as you see her today. Hope all goes well.

Fio2 · 23/09/2005 08:26

when my sister died I 'found out' who my real friends were and which ones were fairweather friends. Sorry about her brother QofQ, hope your ds enjoyed his birthday too and look after your friend x

saadia · 23/09/2005 08:35

Haven't read all replies but found your post very touching. If you're not sure what to say then just admit it, something like "I can't imagine what you must be going through but I really want to help you in any way that I can..." or perhaps gently encourage her to reminisce about her brother.

Good Luck and condolences to your friend, what an awful shock for her.

Pruni · 23/09/2005 08:39

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QueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2005 09:55

Thanks everyone.

TBH I've never really thought that anyone considered me a close friend, I've always imagined my friends to have their own close friends, with me just a 'normal' friend on the side.

Guess that's a throw back from school when although I had "friends", I was never anyone's 'best friend' - and therefore subconciously have thought that no-one would ever class me as their 'close friend'

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hatstand · 23/09/2005 10:02

QofQ - don't worry about saying the wrong thing - the fact that she wants to come and see you speaks volumes - she clearly does value your friendship. It may also be the case that you can play a different role for her at a difficult time than older friends and family - you are distant from the situation. she can off load without worrying - she won't have to think about what you're thinking iyswim. I think at a time of crisis a friend like that can be enormously valuable.

ScummyMummy · 23/09/2005 10:07

Awww. Really sweet post, QoQ. Hope the friendship continues to go from strength to strength.

laligo · 23/09/2005 10:22

qofq, i so know what you mean about "best friends" - i was never really in on that best friend thing at school and it left me feeling there was some "level" of friendship i was left out of... but getting older i've realised that a lot of times when people (esp women) have a "best friend", it's often an old label for someone who is not actually a great friend to them. (obv not in all cases but i have seen it...) it's so true that the truest friendship appears in times of need and that is what you are offering your friend. having her round to chat might not seem like much but it is being there that counts.

when dp and had a temporary breakdown in our relationship - he was depressed and it was v. hard - i found that some friends who i thought were close just stayed away, while others came round often, watched tv with me, said "phone me if you need to, even if it's 3am" - things like that. that is what your friend needs - just to know you're there and will listen.

KBear · 23/09/2005 10:24

It is nice to know your friend values your friendship, it is a boost and a compliment to you QoQ.

You don't have to be friends for 20 years to have a close friendship and be good mates. I have "old" friends I treasure but some new friends I have made through having children or work are also some of my best friends.

QueenOfQuotes · 23/09/2005 20:31

Thanks for your posts everyone.

She did come round, armed with DS1's birthday present (a lovely Tesco 30 piece wooden train set, her DS has one and my boys LOVE playing with it).

Poor woman, long drive back from Scotland yesterday, got home and the boiler wasn't working - so no hot water ! And her DH has to go off to Marsais (sp) next week from Monday-Friday leaving her at home with the boys on her own!

I guess I can't have said anything too bad, as when I told her she was welcome to come round again, and she said she probably would next week while her DH is away.

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SleepySuzy · 24/09/2005 22:26

I was so touched reading this, decided to bump it.

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