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satuday job

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Tortington · 28/07/2003 22:26

how old do teenagers have to be to get a saturday job?

my 13 yr old has had his bike stolen and so he needs a job to get a new one.

should i phone up local garden centres and stores and ask them - or should he do it

any advice

thank you

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lou33 · 28/07/2003 22:32

Custy ring the school and ask. They know all the rules and regs, and apparently have to give written permission for kids of a certain age to get a job. Without this they are not allowed to work, even just paper rounds. I was given all the bumpf a few weeks ago but threw it away because dd is only 11, so didn't feel like keeping it for a few more years until it came in useful. You should have asked me then, I could've sent it to you!

janh · 28/07/2003 23:00

At 13 they are restricted to things like paper rounds and the number of hours per day/week is regulated too - I have DS1's LEA green work certificate from when he started his paper round hanging around somewhere, it has the exact rules on the back, if I can find it I'll post them.

Paper rounds are quite lucrative these days, especially the weekend ones - up here it's £4 for the Saturday round (less than an hour) and £6-£8 for a Sunday round. (They don't have to carry all the papers at once, the shop does 3 or 4 drops for them to pick up as they go.)

janh · 28/07/2003 23:01

PS He didn't get written permission from school....!

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Tortington · 28/07/2003 23:17

thanks, he did have a paper round but chucked it in 2 weeks ago beuase he was sick of getting up at 6am. so i wanted to find something for him like a saturday job - once a week isnt too hard rather than 6 am 7 days a week. and he cant do after school rounds becuase he has school work to do so i wont allow it.

but he wont get the bike for nothing so he must work!

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doormat · 28/07/2003 23:27

custardo being the summer holidays could your ds knock on doors in your neighbourhood and as for odd jobs
example
mowing lawns
cleaning gardens
washing cars
shopping for neighbours who have lots of children or the elderely, and that makes it harder for them to go to the shops.
Dont know what you think but it is a few suggestions your ds could consider

SoupDragon · 29/07/2003 07:51

Have a look here.

"The types of work 13 year olds are permitted to do may include newspaper delivery, shop work, agricultural work, work in hairdressing salons, offices, cafes and riding stables.

The jobs which all young people of school age are prohibited from doing may include work in commercial kitchens, work in cinemas, theatres and night clubs, collecting money door to door and delivering milk. Street trading (i.e. working on a market stall) is only permitted for those aged 14 or over if they are employed by their parents and have a licence from the local authority."

"The 1933 Act (i.e. national law) provides that, if you are of compulsory school age, you are not allowed to work:

under the age of 14 (but see below*)
before 7am or after 7pm;
during school hours;
for more than two hours on a school weekday;
for more than one hour before school starts;
for more than two hours on any Sunday;
for more than eight hours (or, if under 15, five hours) on
Saturdays and holidays (two hours on Sundays);
for more than 35 hours (or, if under 15, 25 hours) a week during the holidays. "

hmb · 29/07/2003 08:19

I think that he should ring them, it will show greater initiative and impress them more than poor overworked mum doing it for him.

Dh got a job cleaning up in Tescos. Nasty, smelly job, but he liked the cash and it made him work very hard in school to avoid doing it full time as an adult. I had a paper round.

janh · 29/07/2003 10:40

Thanks for that link, Soupie - I kind of half-knew the hours but wasn't sure. The bit about collecting money door-to-door is interesting because both DDs have done that for a milkround and they started before they were 16 (looked old enough though I suppose).

Custdy, DS1 works in the kitchen of a wine bar/restaurant now - he started as a wash-up and also does food prep, and on at least one occasion has been chef! (I hope none of the customers knew! But it's mostly sandwiches.) He gets £3.50 ph.

He started there before he was 15 and worked 7 hours every Saturday and sometimes 5 or 6 on a Sunday too so they're not too bothered about regs. At the moment he is doing 30 hours a week so I will be borrowing off him shortly.

He has friends the same age washing up at another wine bar in town, but when he went there to ask for a job aged 14 - his friends there were already 15 - they said "oh no, we only employ 16 year olds." Which was a bit odd.

What I mean is, it might be easier to find him something through friends if you can - that's how DS1 got the one he's got. Does your DS know any kids already working in cafes etc who could introduce him? I just wonder if from what they said about 16-yr-olds to DS1 that they won't take someone on off the street, if they don't know them, in case it's the DFEE or whoever trying to catch them out.

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Tortington · 29/07/2003 12:56

thanky ou so much for the advice - have done some ringing around and most people say they dont have saturday workers unless they are 16 and some say 15.

i think this is silly as at 16 you can get a full time job so they are obviously targeting students.

i tried the most local farm - who thought i was insane. hirdressers, fruit shops, garden centres, sports shops, boots the chemist.

i guess he will just have to go out and steal things and sell drugs then to make some money.

is there a point to being honest, willing and hardworking?

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CAM · 29/07/2003 15:36

My dd1 had a Saturday job in a newsagents/sweet shop when she was 13, Custy. They paid her really rubbish wages but she liked having some money. Now my feeling is (and I'm not sure why) that shops would be more likely hire girls of that age than boys?

CAM · 29/07/2003 15:39

Also, one further point, she asked about the job herself. Maybe a potential employer would be more keen if your son approached them himself? Initiative and all that.....

lou33 · 29/07/2003 17:24

When we went to dd's introductory evening at her soon to be secondary school, they gave us a booklet outlining what kids can and can't do at what ages with regards to work. Then the truant officer woman stood up and said she has to give permission for a child to be employed ,and if they are falling behind in their schoolwork or not attending she would refuse permission. I reckon your school would have the booklet if you want it.

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Tortington · 30/07/2003 10:56

thank you everyone - i think your right about him taking the initiative.

we have been told his bike was stolen by a family up the street - son had a run in with their 8 year old and i had the mum at my door - i thanked her for coming directly to me and speaking to me and letting me know. the mum obviously has difficulties and is rumoured to be a drug taker and dealer.

however they just stole sons bike as revenge they didnt take my bike or hubbies bike.

but its only kids that told us - we have no proof and dont want to start world war three with the neighbours.

and i am v. sick at the mo too!

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SoupDragon · 30/07/2003 10:58

Can't you claim for a new bike from your house insurance? We've had 2 new ones that way.

CAM · 30/07/2003 14:42

Depends on the excess - it wouldn't be worth it for us, unless incredibly expensive bike. What's wrong Custy, nothing too serious, I hope?

Rhubarb · 30/07/2003 15:14

I don't remember you working at 13 Custdy dear! And no you can't count that bum paper round you made me help you with - you got sacked from that remember!

ThomCat · 30/07/2003 15:39

Blimey, it's all changed since my day then! I had my first Saturday job 1t 13.5, worked in a hairdressers from 9-6 and got £8!
Hope someone gives him some odd jobs then and he gets his bike replaced - poor thing.

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Tortington · 31/07/2003 00:37

oi! rhuby you know perfectly well as an only child i was spoiled by my insane mother ( insane is a required prefix as it is actually true there is nothing about reality which actually applies to her), who having some dosheroonies in her bank account didnt really see the value in a work ethic being passed on. am sure she thought i would marry someone with money as she has no intention of passing on any of hers! grrr.

did i get sacked really? i do have a selective memory you know.

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE.... he got his bike back - his friend beat up the kid who stole it until he gave it back ...yaaaay

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Tortington · 31/07/2003 01:01

i have larengitus - only spelled correctly - MORE GOOD NEWS - i have a sick note til the end of the week!

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winnie1 · 31/07/2003 09:53

Glad he got his bike back Custy (not sure about the methods though). Does ds still intend to get a Saturday job? This has been a really interesting thread as dd wants to get a Saturday job too.

Hope your time off work gives you chance to recover!

winnie1 · 31/07/2003 09:56

There was supposed to be a wink after with in the brackets ";0" ... I wasn't meaning to be judgemental (I know what kids can be like)just making a comment...

winnie1 · 31/07/2003 09:57

;o eventually?

winnie1 · 31/07/2003 09:58

(It's 4 hours sleep that does it... I give up for now...!)

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Tortington · 31/07/2003 16:10

no winnie he doesnt want a bluddy job now he has a bike - which is a down side. but they always want something dont they, so time is on my side.

as far as i can see there was no other way to get the bike back.

the boys parents are drug addicts - we couldnt prove as adults he has took the bike - although the children on the street new he did and told us.

i didnt go and see his parents as i had no proof and would have been punched or worse
this would then lead to a street fued thing going on - probably..no certainly aid my depression at being down south instead of home ( up north) then would have put further pressure on my marriage. my kids would have been witness to problems at home and the younger ones victims not being able to play outside or on their bikes etc.

i think it was solved as amicably as possible with no one being hospitalised

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wickedstepmother · 31/07/2003 16:59

Flippin' 'eck Custy, it sounds like you're living in Fort Apache ?! I'm glad your little fella got his bike back

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