Fellow Christians- what do you think of Cameron?

[Mog]

While I wouldn't want to go on holiday with him, I did admire him for sticking up for his beliefs in a non-threatening way. Can't have been easy and will be even harder now he's out.

Brilliant post, harrysmum, I couldn't have put it better!
It's lovely when a Christian shows that we're not all scary people who rant about ' sin and wickedness' etc etc.
Lilibet, I'm sure non-Christian mumsnetters won't mind if you want to ask a question - that's what we're all here for, after all!

lilibet, we've had "religious" threads before, and they've been very thought provoking. You'll probably get some non-Christian - based answers as well!

After Camerons reading at the meal did you hear Ray say 'Big Up Jesus'- classic comment.

I think Caneron would have done the 'cause' no good at all if he had been preaching the error or everyone's ways - the good thing about christianity (weel christians like Cameron) is they have the strength to follow thier beliefs and not ram them down others throats.

And I think it is good that he did not give the money to the church - he is obviously looking after others and not squandering it so good on him -think these things where they give all there money away is a bit suspect anyway - another way of controlling people in my opinion!!

Is Cams sex appeal to do with the cracking the priest/married/gay man thing.Meaning he's off limits so he's more interesting and challenging.I think he is great .Has he asked Steph out yet?

I didn't watch it so shouldn't really comment I suppose but it was so refreshing to hear of someone being so natural and true to themselves. More of the same type of people without it being a religious programme would really help to balance out tv which is so one sided towards the opposite of just plain simple nice living/beings - sorry not explaining myself very well and don't want to go on and on and on and on.......

As a confirmed Agnostic I couldn't and wouldn't wish to comment on his merits as a Christian but I am amazed that so many women find him sexy ! Yes, he seemed like a perfectly nice bloke but I really didn't get any sex appeal vibes from him... It's a bloomin good job we're all different

What do people think about his views on homosexuality?

I'm assuming that they aren't particularly complimentary, Pie ?

Is that not the view of most christians that a man shouldn't be with another man e.t.c so i think he was just quoting from the bible.Not my belife by the way but do respect others.Was there an uncut version then shown on big brother.

As I say I'm not a Christian but I was under the impression that according to the Big G we are supposed to 'Love thy neighbour' ? Really don't think anyones sexuality is anybody elses business but their own. I am sure that the views of one semi-celebrity Christian do not reflect those of the masses !

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I think that describing him as homophobic (as the press did, not people here) was slightly misleading. He's not (or at least, I would assume that he's not, as most Christians are not) phobic about gay people; what he was asked and what he said was that he did not think that marriage rights should be extended to gay couples. He said that a marriage was a husband and a wife; not two husbands and not two wives. He backed this up from the bible. He didn't say anything about hating, fearing or whatever; he stated his position and you are welcome to agree or disagree. I, for one, agree with him

I am still a little at sea with your views on being rich and not preaching being untrue to his beliefs. Preaching doesn't have to be words - actions speak louder than those and his certainly did - preaching in the most loving of ways. Thinking about what would Jesus do and doing it. See what I said before about wealth and stewardship - you have no idea about how he redistributes the wealth with which he has been blessed and he is accountable to God for the wise maangement of it.

Wow! very chuffed to discover there are Christians on mumsnet - shall I out myself too? Haven't been watching BB I'm afraid - past my bedtime. For those of you who aren't Christians and are bemused/sickened by all the fuss about homosexuality in the church (especially recently with all the fuss over Jeffrey John being appointed Bishop of Reading), can I reassure you that many of us (Ok, I'll come clean, I'm ordained - as of 3 weeks ago!!) are NOT anti-gay. The bible does have some pretty negative things to say about homosexuality, but there is a lot of debate going on about how it should be interpreted and what exactly it is referring to. Most christians think
that loving God and your neighbour is more important than criticising people's choice of sexual partner, anyway...

Miranda - many congratulations on your ordination. And very well put comments regarding Jeffrey John. Can't comment on Big Brother as I have never watched it!

ok, as i said below, I need a bit of advice and some opinions, so have started a seperate thread. Miranda, congrats on the ordination, do yu have parish?

Isn't Cameron the horrible one who thinks you should hit kids with belts? Or am I getting mixed up again? Haven't followed BB this year but my sister was getting in a tizzy about someone who thought belting bairns was a good move and I thought it was this Cameron guy. (I know it wasn't John Tickle because she likes him- something about him inventing a brilliant toaster? I'm baffled but I think that's what she said.)

Scummy, yes that was Cameron

Then I personally think he's a twat rather than a sweetheart but I feel sorry for him because I imagine he was beaten himself.

I hated John Tickle - thought he was jumped up twat -not surprised he was sexually frustrated only a looney woud think of sleeping with him - he would be a complete let down but would think he would be great - have lots of knowledge from slapper days - have now regressed to shy saddo!!

Well, it wouldn't surprise me, Boe. My wee sister has the oddest taste in men. I'll have to ask her about him being sexually frustrated!

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Hi bloss- nice to see you. You are right, I can and do respect alternative views but, on the other hand, I do not EVER condone hitting a child with a belt and am just not prepared to listen to arguments in favour of that. Sorry. Some views when translated into action are unacceptable to me and that's one of them. Therefore I cannot agree with Mog that I admire Cameron for "sticking up for his beliefs in a non-threatening way" and I think the rest of his admirers on this thread have overlooked important evidence that he is definitely not a sweetheart in the round. The man needs help because he was probably physically abused as a child himself. In that context I am sorry to have called him a twat rather than a victim. I apologise.

Scummy, I didn't hear Cameron give his views on hitting children (I don't think you did either from your previous posts). I did hear some of the other housemates say that hitting children was right. However, none of them have children!!!! We've all said things we'd do and not do when we have children that now make us cringe now we've got them.
Also, 'the belt' in Scotland is what used to be known as the strap in schools when corporal punishment was allowed in schools in Britain. Could this be what Cameron was referring to?

Strap or belt, still child abuse.