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awww are we supposed to feel sorry for Apeman???

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:33

well its in the local paper today, with photos and its say how the middle one was given a life sentance but only has to serve 6 years!!!! It also spouts crap about how they are distressed at what they have put their parents through and how the oldest has missed out on his son early life and will now miss another part of his life........... oh boo hoo!!!

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MrsGordonRamsay · 24/08/2005 13:33
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MrsGordonRamsay · 24/08/2005 13:33
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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:34
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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:42

Just searched the local papers website for the upto date story but its not there Confused

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:52

ONE of three brothers was handed a life sentence and all are behind bars after they kicked a man unconscious on the streets of XXX.

J, 25, J, 21, and J, 19, waved to friends and family after being sentenced to a total of 18 years and 11 months at St Albans Crown Court on Friday.

Jurors had found the trio guilty of GBH with intent but not guilty of affray last Tuesday (August 16).

During the week-long trial, the court heard that victim Jonathan Ure had to undergo emergency surgery following a drunken attack outside Pizza Hut, in Howardsgate, on October 23 last year.

The WHT reported last week that Mr Ure's girlfriend had seen the brothers kick him "like a football" before turning on her when she tried to shield his motionless body.

Describing the incident as a "serious drunken piece of late night violence", Judge Findlay Baker QC told the stocky trio on Friday: "You intended to cause him serious injury and achieved your intention.

"By the time he got to hospital the following afternoon he had lost two-and-a-half pints of blood. His condition was life-threatening."

Judge Baker sentenced J (middle one) to life after it was revealed he had blinded a man in one eye by repeatedly kicking him in the head in a separate incident three years ago.

It was ordered he spend just six years in prison, on top of the 15 months unspent from his previous conviction. He would be eligible for release after three years.

Laban Leake, mitigating for J, said he had been on bail since October and not reoffended, so did not pose a significant risk to the public.

He said: "He expressed his distress at the suffering he has caused his parents."

The court heard that eldest brother J, who has a five-year-old son, had a string of previous convictions, including theft and assault and had been given five years for robbery in 2002.

In mitigation, defence counsel John Kearney said: "He has lost the early part of his son's life, he's now going to lose a later section. He feels badly about it."

J was handed six years, to begin after he has served 21 unspent months of his five year sentence. He will have to serve four years before being eligible for release.

Youngest brother J, who had no previous convictions, was sent to prison for three years and 11 months and will serve at least half the sentence.

His barrister Michael Latham said he was the "least and last involved" in the attack.

"He was living, until that night, a good and blameless life," he said. "He will bitterly regret his actions over the years.

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Janh · 24/08/2005 13:55

Is it me? I just don't understand how this works:

"Judge Baker sentenced J (middle one) to life after it was revealed he had blinded a man in one eye by repeatedly kicking him in the head in a separate incident three years ago.

It was ordered he spend just six years in prison, on top of the 15 months unspent from his previous conviction. He would be eligible for release after three years."

So will he be inside for 6 years? 7 years 3 months? 3 years? 4 years 3 months? And WTF does "life" mean these days?

sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:56

I'm confused about that too Janh

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cod · 24/08/2005 13:56

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:57

cod, life on licence?? What does that actually mean?

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Lizzylou · 24/08/2005 13:57

God, they sound so awful, SM...how terrible for you to be living next door to total monsters like that!

sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 13:58

You should be glad you haven't seen the photos, it would give you all nightmares for a week!!

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 14:03

I do NOT feel sorry for them one little bit!!!

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suedonim · 24/08/2005 17:14

Aaah, my heart bleeds for the little poppets all locked up in nasty prison...NOT.

I find the sentencing incomprehensible, too.

QueenOfQuotes · 24/08/2005 17:19

is this them???

Hulababy · 24/08/2005 17:24

Yes the life sentence refers to his license, not prison sentence. He will be on license for life which means the police can just pick him up and put him back in prison if he does anything wrong again. As his sentence is for 6 years (so more than 4 years) he will not be automatically released after 3 years (half his sentence) . Instead he will have to go through the parole process. This means he will need to meet various sentence plannuing targets whilst inside, and will have to show some commitment to avoiding re-offending by attending various courses, good behaviour inside, gaining enhanced status, etc. When his parole date is looming, about 6 months before, his parole papers will begin. The completion of these determine whether he will be released on not. Past breaches, failures to show, etc will be looked upon unfavouravably and mean more work to be done. It is common for inmates not to get parole at the first attempt. And there are many cases where parole is never granted and the full sentence is carried out.

I hope that latter occurs in this case, for your sake Mieow, and that of his victims.

Hulababy · 24/08/2005 17:26

Oh and don't worry about having to feel sorry for them. No one will really expect you to. I suspect that their barristers don't either but they are paid to come up with mitigating reasons. Just doing a job, that's all.

sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 17:28

Yes that them........ how did you find it?? Scary ain't they??

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QueenOfQuotes · 24/08/2005 17:30

did a search on the Google News search for the victims name

Nasty looking boys (not going to call them "men" as they're obvsiouly not).

sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 18:25

I see, those pics scared the life out of me this morning when i picked up the local paper, seen their ugly mugs enough times to last a lifetime!!!!

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suedonim · 24/08/2005 20:13

That's a Rogues Gallery, if ever I saw one. Thank goodness you're getting away from them, SM.

giraffeski · 24/08/2005 20:16

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 22:11

This was a nice street when I moved here 5 years ago. And when they were released 2 years ago, we saw it go downhill fast........ I am glad I am getting away, because when they are released they will be worse and as long as you have all 3 together you have no chance!

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sparklymieow · 24/08/2005 22:32

I just feel sorry for all the innocent neighbours that will still be here and don't have a hope in hell of getting out as easily as we have. Yes! I used my kid's disabilities to get out but I am not ashamed of that. I need to be make sure they are safe and I would do it again.

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