Will social services be involved with second child?

[Bluemermaid32]

Hello, my partner had a baby taken off him with a previous partner over 15 years ago so when we had our daughter 4 years ago she was put on a child protection plan.

We had social services involved from my first midwife appointment.

When our daughter was born, any time my partner spent time with her had to be supervised by my mum.

Cut a long story short, we then had to go to court and the plan ended and social services are no longer involved. (This was when my daughter was about 6 months old)

4 years on and i am wondering if we have a second child will social services be involved?

I don't honestly know, I imagine your midwife would have a better idea, have you raised this question with him/her?

I am not currently pregnant, I would like another baby but i wondered if I would have to go through any of the stress i had to previous.
Don't have contact with anyone nomore to ask

Probably but less so now

A friend of mine had child child one removed years later with a different partner she got pregnant again
Child two child protection and lots of intervention and hoops
Child three monitoring and a child in need meeting she was given support for awhile then they left her too it

Basically her circumstances changed and she had already "proved" herself with child two so they were less concerned with child three

Yes that's what i thinking.
I don't know whether it's best to phone social services up and ask them?
It was really stressful and i ended up getting preeclampsia and put it down to that.

Surely it would depend on the circumstances. Why the child had to be removed? What has changed since?

It will very much depend on the reasons why the child was removed.

I can't advise but I just wanted to say I can't imagine your PE was caused by stress, please don't beat yourself up about it.

I would expect your midwife to contact the safeguarding midwife, who would contact social services to check they were no longer involved. Beyond that I can't see why they would need to do another assessment, they're happy for you to parent your daughter without intervention so that shouldn't be any different for a new baby.

Ex social worker here. From personal experience I had a case where the 1st child was actually taken into care & adopted. I didn't actually remove but was marginally involved in placing child.

But 5 years later I was doing an entirely different job - I'd gone back to doing the job I'd done before which was nothing to do with children or social work. As part of this job I actually walked into the house of the mother who was with another partner by then, and had another child. We had a nice conversation & she said that the services weren't involved at all because they had decided that things had changed for her. They had never reopened the case.

If you've had no domestic incidents or other issues that might be thought a red flag I don't think they can involve themselves. Because they have to justify being involved. As the law stands the authority including social services can only interfere with family life if there's a good reason, they cannot just involve themselves without a reason such as a child considered to fall under the at risk or in need (children's act) laws, this is also due to the human rights laws.

And you've proved that you & your dp are in a stable relationship providing good care for your DC.
I hope things will work out for you. I would not let this hold you back from growing your family but if you are worried you could call a children & family solicitor who usually give a small amount of advice on the phone.

@Messyhair321 I have situation i have 2 children to my ex husband and one night me and my new partner had argument and police were called and my ex husband hates my new partner I was pregnant and social got involved it was so stressful but sadly she died, my ex husband has currently got custody of the girls as I couldn't attent court because I was poorly with my pregnancy and he lied to court about me but I wasn't there to have my say so. Social services got involved and did all the checks on me and they were happy with the girls coming back but dad refused saying he wanted me go to court but obviously I couldn't with being poorly so they gave him custody 😔 haven't seen my childre in 5months I'm trying to take him back to court for some sort of contact but now there is no social involved do you no if I got pregnant again would they automatically get involved again because I've not seen my other children as there dad has custody at the min?

The court should definitely give you contact I would ask for them to live with you or at least 50/50 contact & shared residency.
Was there a reason that social services were involved in the first place ? If this wasn't about your parenting, & you need to stay out of problems with your ex, so only minimal contact & about your shared children.
Is there new baby his child? Only asking because he might make things difficult for you.

Things sound stressful for you

Police were called he tried to get me done for neglect but the charges got dropped he's even lied to a judge saying kids have lived with him since 2018 wen fact of matter is they have only lived with him since June 2023 and no my second child was to new partner but she sadly died

It depends on what the outcome was of their assessments. Assuming they closed the case without going to court and there were no restrictions on his contact with your older child then they may just contact you or do a brief assessment to see if anything has changed. If nothing has changed they probably wouldn't do a CP plan again, it would be pointless.

Just realised this is an old thread. @Michah89 you need to start your own thread to get advice.