Care in Nurseries

[Sharon75]

My nursery will not wipe my 3 year year olds bottom. I don't think that this is right but can not find any guideline that say they have a duty of care to do this can anyone help me?

I think that day-care nurserys (ie: babies upwards) usually do bottom wiping but pre-school places don't.

My dc's are at nursery and while ds is potty trained they do help him.

ds moved to pre-school room a couple of months ago, since then no bottoms get wiped. no big deal, they have to learn that too.

3 year olds can wipe their own bottoms if you teach them how to do it

A child should be pretty good at doing it themselves by then, but some children might need extra help. Nurseries should not be leaving children with dried on poo as it isn't hygienic and could cause medical problems. They can't say that children can't go if they can't look after themselves reliably due to Special Needs anti-discrimination.

Tell them to do their job properly.

Some three year olds can't reach. not all three year olds are built on the same proportions, and some have shorter arms and longer bodies than others.

ds1 (built like gorilla, very long arms) wipes his bottom at bang on three

Ds2 (very short limbed, long bodied, built like toad) has JUST become able to reach his bottom properly aged 4.

I haven't encouraged one and neglected the other.

poinbt out to the preschool that your child cannot physically reach, and that they would be in breach of the disability discrimination act if they don't help him with this.

Some three year olds aren't even toilet trained, yet alone able to wipe their bottom. A nursery setting that accepts nursery vouchers can not refused to accept a non potty trained child. Surely they must make provision to wipe the bottom of a three year old if necessary or at least supervise to see that its done properly.

Is this a day nursery or a school nursery or a private pre school?

Have you asked them to go with your child when he goes to the toilet? At my nursery we generally don't accompany children to the toilet, but if we knew a particular child needed help then we would.

From
nationalstrategies.standards.dcsf.gov.uk/eyfs/taxonomy/33695/33656/0/46384

EYFS Framework:
Areas of Development:
30-50 months:
Physical Development:
Health and Bodily Awareness:
Early Support:
'How children behave in the toilet. Can they flush the toilet for themselves and do they wait to be wiped?'

It also states under
Development Matters:
'Often need adult support to meet those needs.'

If the EYFS is asking providers to note this, it implies it is not expected that all children should be able to do it themselves at this point. Perhaps you could mention this to the nursery.

I treat my mindees the same way I would expect my own child to be treated, if they need help toileting then I would provide this or help the child learn.

It comes under Being Healthy, Staying Safe and learning and Achieving.

It's unhealthy for a child to be left soiled, it's not safe for other children to come into contact with another childs faeces, children only learn if they are taught, they don't achieve if they don't learn.

Children are supposed to be treated as individuals, some children need extra help in areas.

Please tell your childs key worker that you will provide gloves / wipes so that they can help your child to Stay Health, Keep Safe and Achieve.

"A nursery setting that accepts nursery vouchers can not refused to accept a non potty trained child. Surely they must make provision to wipe the bottom of a three year old if necessary or at least supervise to see that its done properly."

I wonder if this is the case in Scotland? I know of 3 private nurseries, and 1 pre-school that have told me they will not accept children in nappies.

You cannot discriminate on the basis of continence in England for sure. Nurseries and pre-schools are breaking the law if they do.