Twins getting soaking wet every day at the nursery!!

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Hello. I have twins nearly 3 now. At the nursery they are 3hour and they have a little basing with 3inch of water in it for toddlers to play and explore, etc. The toilets are with little basing for the little ones to wash their hands in.
I meanshend to the teachers( who are looking after my twins) that they like water and if it is possible to keep an eye because they will get wet. I was told no worries, we are a lots of teachers.

When I pick them up the first couple of months they had wet sleeves. I said ok can happen. I was told to provide chaning clothes. They opent the taps fully and went wet. I said ok can happen. Winter came twins went soaking wet they were changed completely. From head to toe. I said please is it possible to keep my twins away from the water. The respond, twins are so quick.
With time it went worse. Every day I find them wet, they jackets sleeves are wet, the changing clothes I provide are soaking wet. So they change them 2 ore more times in this 3 houre they are in nursery. How is I possible where are the teacher. Health and safety??! I find my twins are every day with cold hand and feed.

I brought it up again to the teacher, how do they get soaking wet. One of them said we are short on staff at the moment.
Last Monday tried to talk again with the teacher.
I said, Sorry I have a question about the twins. She gave me an annoying look and went Uff...! (I was like:now what?!)4 more teacher were in the room.
I said, because they are wet every day, would it be possible to put them aprons(at the painting table and near water basin) on with the long sleeve for the time they stay at the nursery. Maybe I will avoid they getting wet.!
She straight away respondet that the twins dont keep it one.
I stopped for a second looked at the other women. Some of the looked down, some acted like they weren't listening.
I said just trying mayby it will help.
She again said strikt they won't keep it one. And looked at me like very anoid.
I said ok. Thank. See you later.. And left.
Today the same thing clothes a dripeling and my child has cold arms hand and feed. I dont know how long theh stay I the cold water, with wet clothes on. It is big problem for me. It is winter! Children a free to go outside or inside the nursery.I dont know how to talk to them. They have my children for this couple of hours. It is a very delicate situation and I dont know how to react or what to do.
I think if I would complain at the head teacher I could make it worse for my children.

Please mums I need advise
Thank you

**She gave me an annoying look and went Uff...! (SHE was like:now what?!)

I would talk to the manager if I was you. That's the joy if nursery and not a childminder - more people to give another view on things.

Is there another nursery you could use?

It's part of the early years curriculum to have access to water play but I agree with you. It's freezing outside when they are wet and it can't be good for them.

Yanbu to ask them to be kept out of the water.

I had exactly this situation with DS2, only to make things worse they used to put bubbles in the water and it irritated his excema terribly.

Hope you get it sorted OP; it drove me crazy.

God morning,
Thank you for your quick respondes. It is drivin me crazy. I think how to talk with the teacher with out making them upset or thinking of me that I tell them how to do their job. But you see, they dont do the job right by not looking after my twins. Since September 2019 is that going on. It is going worse.

TInklyLittleLaugh, what did you do?

Hi Legoandloldolls
Yes was looking last night for other nurseries. I am not sure if I can change places during term?
I will give them a call and let see.

But them an all on one waterproof to go to nursery in over their clothes. It'll work as painting apron and also to keep them dry with water.

Part of the free flow and having water etc year round is to teach kids about playing reasonably, that it gets cold when wet in winter, rolling up sleeves etc. Your twins obviously haven't learnt this yet. So cover them up until they do.

I would suggest putting them in an all in one waterproof coat and let the teachers know that they are to stay in it until the water goes away/ outside doors are shut!
It isn't great. I'm a childcarer and I'll strip them down for water play in a warm house with doors shut but I'd never let them walk in and out without a coat on with wet sleeves!

Even waterproof jackets don't protect them fully. If their wrists are fully in the water them water will seep up their arms.

If they don't learn what it is like to be wet how will they learn to be dry? It's water not acid or a nasty chemical. Believe it or not water and damp sleeves will not harm your child.

It's water not acid or a nasty chemical

Well personally I wouldn’t want to be out on a chilly day in soaking wet clothes, it’s horrible. So why would I be expect my three year old to put up with that?

Eng The member of staff responsible for my DS changed and he stopped getting dry, but his excema didn’t improve. Then at the end of the year they showed me his record and photos of what he’d been doing and he was up to his elbows in bubbles in virtually every one.

I would find a new nursery this one isnt suiting you understaffed and huffy

It is part of the curriculum. Provide more dry clothes, they may have changed them and they went back to it. Messy play, water play, mud kitchens are all used daily and little ones get wet and dirty at nursery.

However at 3 they should listen to instructions about keeping aprons on.

Our nursery has that same stupid rule. Outside play all day long for all pupils. It's winter and they have a small playing field filled with wooden pallets, car tyres and all manner of fucking junk dressed up as nature play (think "mud kitchens") and a nursery garden. You have to walk over the concrete path between the mud field and the mud garden where all the fucking mud covered toys are left out to get your primary age kids into school.
It's a school on a street in a town and we're getting close to having to wear wellies to get our kids inside!

Each and every child coming out of nursery is red nosed, freezing cold, wet and covered in mud. They have nursery clothes, a spare set they're changed into during the day and now parents are bringing a third set to change them into before allowing them into the car!

It sounds as if the kids are indoors for the water play, though, so why is it such an issue if they get wet? Alright, they'll need changing but that shouldn't really be a problem. They probably shouldn't be playing with the taps and splash everywhere but we have adults checking on the kids frequently when they go to the toilet.
DS attends a nursery that takes them on lots of walks. He has a thermal waterproof suit and thermal wellies on when they go out at the moment. They've taken them to the little stream near the nursery several times now. It's around 2 degrees here at the moment and yes, he's come back wet. Got changed and was dry again. No issue.

I work as a teacher in the primary section of the school and our kids all have waterproof clothes. The number of children, who have spent all break times last week messing around in the massive puddle we had on the field was astounding. Yes, they must have been cold but they didn't really care. They also got changed after break.

I work in a nursery and we do have messy play trays.
We do however supervise them and if a child didnt have their sleeves up or is overly splashing or doesn't wear an apron then they are moved to another play area.

It sound like they are not observing your children properly.

Water play encourages communication, all areas, personal, social and emotional development, physical development, maths development expressive arts and design and understanding the world. This a holistic part of developing a child through play. In sweeden babies are wrapped up and left to sleep outside in the winter. They have far less cases of asthma eczema and allergies than we do. Children develop better physically. What you see as a pain or inconvenience a child sees as excitement wonder and a learning opportunity. Why would you deny that to a child?

For a short time in the day, or in the summer or inside a warm building then yes I agree, but not outside in the winter, when it might be half an hour or more before they go in and get changed. Yes I do have a problem with it then. Especially when I see kids with runny noses, obviously a bit under the weather, doing it. Which I do.

@Legoandloldolls.
I guess you mean the joy of a childminder is that they have less children will supervise them and change them and you get to talk to them twice a day discussing everything you need to with the same person who works with that child and knows exactly what you prefer and will work with you to provide it whilst meeting the childs needs and ofsted (EYFS) requirements....ie provide a waterproof overall or puddle suit, warm the childs hands and feet etc.