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Nursery mixed ratio

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Busylittlebebe · 20/06/2018 18:24

I’m having a bit of a discussion with 2 separate people there’s a room of children
8 in total

1-1 year old
3 - 2 year olds
4 - 3 year olds

I think 3 members of staff

I didn’t know there’s a rule that you can downgrade the 4 & 3 year olds to fit in the 1-3 ratio 1-4 ratio etc if this makes any sense. Can someone help me clear this up and I fog my brain, as I presumed that each age meant a separate staff and not shove 2 4 year olds in with the 1 year old to use them up 😩

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DinoGreen · 20/06/2018 20:45

Your numbers don't make sense. You can "downgrade" the 2/3 year olds so e.g. you have 1 member of staff for the 1 year old and two 2 year olds. But then you still have 5 over-2s left and the ratio is 1 to 4 so you need 2 additional staff, 3 in total.

If you changed your numbers so you had three 3 year olds instead of 4, you could have 2 members of staff.

Busylittlebebe · 20/06/2018 21:14

In the setting there was 2 members of staff with these ages children and was told today it was ok somehow and I was in the wrong for saying the ratio was over because of this rule.

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DinoGreen · 20/06/2018 21:59

You're right, there should have been 3.

MichonnesBBF · 20/06/2018 22:08

By law the ratio's are
under 2's = 1:3
2 year old = 1:4
3/4 year old = 1:8 (unless there is a qualified teacher then it's 1:13)

Yes apparently a degree magically gives you eyes in the back of your head and you are able to grow a few more arms overnight..

not to mention the massive difference towards the child, going from 1:4 to 1:13it is a massive adjustment in the first term.

MichonnesBBF · 20/06/2018 22:15

Sorry didn't really answer your question.

Yes the nursery has 1 child to many for only 2 members of staff, although if OFSTED were to be notified and was deemed to be unforeseen circumstances absolutely nothing would happen, if it is a common occurrence then there are grounds to bring this up with management.

IGiorni · 22/06/2018 15:25

I may be reading it wrong but I think it’s fine. 1 member of staff for 4 3yo and 2 2yo and another for 1 2yo and 1 1yo?

IGiorni · 22/06/2018 15:27

I used to work in a 2-5’s room and our ratio was 1:6 as long as there were no more than 2 2yo per adult.

insancerre · 29/06/2018 11:11

The ratio can be applied across the whole setting and not just to individual rooms or groups of children
It also depends on how long it was for, a few minuets at the beginning of the day is probably ok if more staff are due in or if there is a manager around who can be included in ratio if needed
How close to being 3 are the 2 year olds?

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