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Funded Hours at a private nursery

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SarahJinx · 17/07/2014 08:32

Hi. I'm hoping someone can can give me a bit of a steer on this please.

DS was three in May, so his free hours start in September. He attends a private nursery in a prep school, a full day is 8.30 - 3.30 and he goes twice a week, so fourteen hours. I expected to have to pay for lunch. I have just received the invoice for next term, they are charging us two hours every day. I've queried and the bursar has said that the maximum grant per day is five hours. Is that correct? And, if it isn't, what can I do about it?

Really appreciate any help.

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Realitybitesyourbum · 19/07/2014 20:51

Claim 5, just saw you said 10 hours, op!

SarahJinx · 19/07/2014 21:09

I've not been given a form. The not sharing business is school policy apparently.

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OneLittleToddleTerror · 19/07/2014 21:21

They can have whatever rules they like in reality if there is enough demand. They are a private business and they don't have to let a child in. I suspect the OP nursery can even fill the place with no funded hours. It is the nursery for an independent school after all.

All this talk about not asking for top ups. But in reality everyone I know pays for them. At my DD one I do get the 11/12 hours free because DD attends full time. But they work in a sliding scale of fees where each hour of the preschool is more expensive the less days you attend. So you will never be able to attend free anyway. The nursery still has a waiting list. A friend told me is over £200 for funded three days, and I will soon find out how much it is exactly when I go on maternity.

unlucky83 · 19/07/2014 21:26

Reality - I'm in Scotland (so a little different) but the ability to split is down to the individual council.
So our council will split - as I said in my first post but you can't use just 2.5 hr funding - one session- in a setting. It is a minimum of 2 sessions - 5 hrs and I know that other councils in Scotland won't allow you to split at all ...because we complained when they introduced the minimum 2 session rule a couple of years ago ...

Our council also limit the number of funded children we can accept and have also been known to refuse to pay funding to us (a playgroup - so a 'private provider') if they have lots of space in a council run service...

SarahJinx · 19/07/2014 21:30

That's the thing. It's a place where they hold all the cards because they can. And, as you say most parents can afford to not give a flying toss about funding but its principle to me ( plus am on mat leave myself and don't want to pay if i don't bloody have to!).

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snozzlemaid · 19/07/2014 21:32

You really do need to speak to your local authority. You should be able to use the other 5 hours elsewhere.
In our county there's no way they could stop you doing this.

insancerre · 20/07/2014 07:27

It sounds to mW if this nursery is claiming g all 15 hours but only passing on 10.
That is the only reason I can think of that would explain their refusal to share those hours with another provider.
The maximum hours a provider can claim for one day is 10 hours not 5

SarahJinx · 20/07/2014 08:06

I bet you're right insancerre, cheeky effers.

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HSMMaCM · 20/07/2014 08:23

I agree with insancerre. The only nurseries near me who refused to split were caught claiming all 15 hours for children who didn't do them all.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 20/07/2014 08:58

I don't understand how they are claiming at all without OP signing a form, unless they are signing it for her.

insancerre · 20/07/2014 09:11

Ours is done electronically with no forms to sign

SarahJinx · 20/07/2014 09:13

Going to discuss it with DH today but I feel like I'll say, yep fine claim the ten hours out of the fourteen he'll be attending and as is my right, we'll use the other five at the village pre school. They'll obviously say that I cant and it'll all come to a head.

We'll be moving him to the pre school after Christmas anyway.

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BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 20/07/2014 10:08

Are you sure there are spaces at the village option?

SarahJinx · 20/07/2014 10:20

Yes we were planning on moving him ready for this next term but changed our minds, he is going two mornings a week anyway, as a transition.

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Realitybitesyourbum · 20/07/2014 23:41

Yes, ask them about the form. Don't understand that at all.

minibmw2010 · 26/07/2014 11:33

Def ask about a form, I was given papers to sign plus a sheet explaining exactly what happens and whether I wanted to use it all in one place or split it out, etc. they were completely open about it all.

I've asked to split mine into 2 days of 7.5 (as he does 3 days but my employer pays for one day) and they said that was fine. Ours isn't a term time nursery however they follow term timings when it comes to the funding.

adsy · 28/07/2014 18:00

It isn't their policy to share funding either
well that's not up to them the cheeky sods.
By LAW you can split the funded hours between 2 settings. They CANNOT say they will not allow it .
Contact the LEA as they are clearly breaking their funding agreement.

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