Skiddy issue with nursery

[MummyNic]

My DS is just 3, recently potty trained and finally pooing on loos / potties.
Nursery doesn't seem to be watching kids in the loos. I was told today that he hadn't had a poo (because they kept asking him if he had & he said no).
Got home, ran bath, undressed him to find Skiddy pants.
This has happened a few times.
Last time (2 weeks ago) I rang nursery. Manager said it wasn't acceptable that staff in room (loos are accessed within room) weren't watching loo area etc etc

So what now? Another phone call to look like the moaniest mum in the world?

My DS hasn't been taught to wipe his bum yet, he's only recently accepted doing poos on the loo / potty.
But if he's not being watched then is he washing his hands???? Ugh!!!

I know it's a nightmare as one kid will always been in the loo etc but it's part of the childcare process isn't it?

Am I expecting too much? Does everyone else have skids to deal with each night?

I get skids occasionally but not the majority of the time. My DD1 cannot wipe her bum on her own either yet. I would call again as you are paying them to look after your little one and their hygiene. I appreciate they might miss them going occasionally but not regularly. You could also try getting your little one to go and tell a member if staff when they have done a poo in the hope that will help them assist.

Thanks, I think I'll have to talk to them again. He's only been doing poo in the loo for about 4 weeks now so to have had, on average, 1 mistake a week (he's only there 3 days a week) isn't great.

Hi
He maybe not actually doing a poo to get skids. Perhaps he is needing to go but holding it because he is busy playing. Then it might almost come out and leading to skids. My DD had this early after potty training.

Good luck

Thought that the first few times but it's def when he's had a poo else he is constipated for over 3 days whilst attending nursery but fine the rest of the time. Appreciate that could happen but I'm 100% certain it's not as he does poo there when they watching

I work in a day nursery, and often the problem is that it's hard to wipe a standing child as effectively as a child in the "nappy change" position, and the alternative for the child is the undignified "touch your toes while I wipe you" which some children really dislike. Some children "clench" when you try to wipe their bottom, and some deliberately don't tell staff they need/have had a poo as they are embarrassed to call out in front of friends.
Talk to your DSs key worker and work out a plan that you can all follow so he knows the drill.

We have had this a couple of times with DD, who is almost 3. I understand that in her room (the preschool room) they are trying to promote independence and think that's laudable, but she's just not able to deal with this on her own yet.

That's really helpful in the post above (sorry, can't remember your user name and on my phone, so can't see it!). I think I will mention it to them if it happens again.

Luckily DS is happy to do the "touch your toes" thing.
The issue was that they said "don't know if he's had one, he hasn't called out & told us" and "he said no when we asked him"... Only to find Skiddy pants meaning he had done one but they hadn't realised

I'll talk to the staff again but it's getting annoying. Maybe I'll phrase it in a "what shall we do to combat this" way.

Another pair of skiffs pants today and DD is crying because her bum is so sore. She's also happy to do the touching her toes bit. DH actually does the pick ups/drop offs so I'll get him to have a word next week.

Sometimes tissue isn't enough to get properly clean (especially if their bottoms are sore), perhaps staff could use a baby wipe just to make sure for a week or two, then nappy bag the wipe and put it in the nappy bin.

Talking to the staff about "how can we manage this situation" will get more co-operation than being confrontational IMO.
Phrases like "DS still needs some support and supervision with toileting", or "DD has a really sore bottom, could you please use wipes for a while until it gets better" get your point across without making staff defensive.
My key group are all still under supervision while toileting, but sometimes even they slip through the net e.g. While I'm on lunch, and have the odd skid or accident. It shouldn't happen regularly though.

I don't know - if he won't tell them when he's going, and says no when they ask, what should they do?

What I do is make sure I'm in the bathroom when certain children go there. With a ratio of 1:4 it's not that hard to keep track of my group. It's harder with over 3s as the ratio is 1:8, but most of them have got the hang of independent toileting.

It could be that he won't go. Neither of my DSs will have a poo outside the house, and DS1 hasn't actually done it since he was 12 months old. I never had to deal with a dirty nappy on the go!

Neither of my boys will go at school or nursery and will hold it in. I've never noticed any marks on their pants but it is entirely possible that there have been. I don't really inspect!

My DD definitely does go. And there is no close inspection needed - her pants are filthy!