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Christmas with ND teen and parent

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SecretSanty · 01/11/2023 14:24

Sorry this is so long. I needed a bit of catharsis to get it out there. Don't read if you don't want.

I’m a single parent to a 13 year old with ASD. I also have ASD, but most of my family don’t accept/know that (private diagnosis, long story).

Since before DD’s birth, Christmas Day has always been at my parents’ house, where DD and I also live. The same family members are always invited. The pattern of the day is always the same: stockings, church, prep & then eat lunch, presents, supper & board games.

2 years ago DD went to her other grandparents’ house for Christmas, and came back having self-harmed. She couldn’t articulate why she had done it. I wasn’t there.

This year, my brother and SIL have decided to host Christmas. They live locally to us (under 30 minutes’ drive, not close enough to walk). DD is very distressed at the thought of the change, and I feel pretty upset by it too.

Not only will the location be different, but the whole structure of the day will be because they fit everything around their toddler’s nap times, don’t want to wait until the evening for presents, don’t really play board games, aren’t practising Christians. And there isn’t room for all the extended family so we won’t get to see my uncles, cousins etc. The dinner itself will be different (still a roast dinner, but just not done the way my Dad does it). I do love my brother and SIL, but I don’t feel comfortable in their home the way I do in mine, I always feel like a guest and never properly relaxed. And I don’t have anywhere to hide when it just gets too much. And I’ll have to drive home, so I won’t be able to drink.

Independently of the hosting, we switched over last year to Secret Santy instead of presents for all the adults, and I found it so awful last year that I’ve opted out of it this year, so the only present I’ll get will be from DD. I’m really upset that we stopped doing proper presents for everyone, but everyone else prefers it this way. I still intended to buy for everyone this year, accepting that I won’t get anything in return, because I like to give presents and that was how we always did it before last year (except I used to get presents back too). But my Mum and sister said this wasn’t appropriate and would ruin the Secret Santy.

I just don’t know what to do for the best. Does anyone have any advice on Christmas for the neurodiverse? I’ve tried to mentally prepare myself for it, but it makes me cry and feel nauseous to think about how everything will be different, and wrong. I know it sounds like I’m being melodramatic and it’s only one day, that why I’ve name changed – I do recognise that it sounds way OTT and I feel ashamed, but I don’t know how to get out of this cycle of thinking.

I was wondering whether there was a practical solution that DD would enjoy, like if we stayed home for most of the day and just went over for a couple of hours. Or if we went earlier but I agreed with her in advance that we’d leave as soon as she wanted (which would still leave me stuck there if she ended up enjoying herself). Or I might bring along an outfit I could get changed into to go for a walk (walking doesn’t help DD). I don’t know what else I can do to mitigate the impact on both of us. Even with these things in place, it still all sounds wrong.

I’ve tried talking to a few family members about this (sister, Mum, sister-in-law). None of them really get what the problem is, they’ve basically told me to just suck it up and get on with it. In a nice way: they are kind about it, but they just can’t see that there’s an issue. DD’s diagnosis is recent and I don’t think they really accept, deep down, that she has ASD (because she masks, meltdowns are not uncontrollably loud etc.). And they take the view that I got to adulthood relatively successfully without suspecting I had ASD so it can’t be a big deal.

Please, any help? Not with trying to persuade them that our ASD is real, but with managing Christmas.

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beautifulbrothers · 01/11/2023 16:46

Christmas can be really stressful, so please don't feel ashamed!

Do you think your DD self-harmed because she was out of routine? This needs following up: hopefully, there's enough distance now to have a conversation about what happened 2 years ago, but I wouldn't change anything this year if there's a risk of her self-harming again. You don't owe anyone an explanation. You will be protecting her mental health.

As she is 13, I'd have a conversation with her about the day. If she wants to go, perhaps you could keep to your own routine, but drive over for lunch?

With regard to exchanging gifts, I think you will have to accept the rest of the family's wishes. Could you get something small for your mum and dad as you live with them?

It's really tough, but I think the priority has to be your daughter. Hopefully, it will be easier for you if you can focus on what she needs.

SecretSanty · 01/11/2023 18:25

Thanks. I have spoken to her about it but it's hard to get her to say exactly what she wants: on the one hand all she really wants is for it to be the same as previous years, but that's off the table. So she understands that there will have to be a choice of a not-ideal option. But she's confused because she knows that other people will think she's weird (her phrase) if we don't turn up to the family day, and she's had enough of not fitting in and feeling like everyone is judging her. I've tried to reassure her that it's only our family so no one will think any the less of her, but I'm not sure she's able to process that. She's also got a bit of FOMO, but at the same time recognises that she finds some situations overwhelming and that she will have a hard time at her aunt and uncle's place. I will have to think for myself which solution would best help her to cope and then present that to her as what we're doing, with plenty of time and repetition for it to bed in as an idea.

I do think the self harming was related to the change in routine. Whether it was specifically Christmas or a combination of sleeping away from home (insomnia), not having spent a lot of time with the grandparents for a while before that (they hadn't seen anyone all through covid), not being with me etc. I don't know. I think the risk would be much less if we were just going somewhere together for a few hours, but I obviously don't want to push her to even want to think about it.

I think you're right that focussing on her needs might help me to cope with it too. But I will still try to put some mitigations in place for myself. Thanks for the advice.

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EverySporkIsSacred · 02/11/2023 08:39

When I've been to family events and found them too much I've sometimes taken myself and the kids (I'm thinking back a few years to when my twins were still teens) off for a walk in the outdoors to calm down. Yes, my family thought it was weird, but they accepted it!
Other times there has been a "quiet room" at aside for when people need to take a break.
Other options are going (as you said) for only part of the day, or maybe just have a quiet Christmas on your own and save visiting for when there's less pressure.
As you said, there's no ideal option.
My family didn't realise how much their after-Christmas visits were affecting DD until one year she hid in a cupboard for an hour to keep our of the way. Since then they've been a lot more understanding but it really shouldn't have come to that. I'm autistic as well btw, the quiet room and walks have been to help me cope as well!

BlackeyedSusan · 03/11/2023 00:27

I'd do your routine Christmas at home with you and dd. If anyone queries it say you are meeting the needs of her disability. If they don't like it they can "suck it up" as the none disabled people (seeing as the NTs are keen for the disabled people to adapt in a way that is detrimental to themselves. )

Ok, dinner will be different but you can discuss that together.

Do presents if you want. Tough if it "spoils"Secret Santa" They don't care that Secret Santa is spoiling things for you.

Sprinkles211 · 03/11/2023 09:40

If your family are out for the day I'd definitely use this as an opportunity to have a christmas at home just the two of you plan it together favourite foods, movies, games and quality mum daughter time. You are not obligated to follow others plans. Celebrate the way you want to.

SecretSanty · 03/11/2023 14:04

Thanks all for your experience and advice. I'll ponder what would work best for both of us and plan around that.

Currently we have other issues with my Mum being ill, so we'll deal with that first and then sort things out for Christmas.

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