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If you have inattentive ADHD...

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Purpleparsley · 12/01/2023 21:54

How does it affect your social interactions? If at all.

Thank you.

OP posts:
notyourmam · 13/01/2023 13:19

I think the traits that affect social interaction are actually from the hyperactive side of the spectrum for me, but I didn't meet enough of them to qualify for a mixed type diagnosis (though I think I would have as a kid). E.g, I tend to say the thing I know I shouldn't say - that streak of impulsivity. If I have a nagging irritation, for example, I know I should pick my time to raise it, but end up saying it anyway even if it's exactly the wrong time. I feel a building tension till it blurts out.

I also interrupt people, because I find it difficult sitting there politely letting someone finish her sentence if I already know how it's going to go.

The inattentive traits aren't very noticeable in social interaction as far as I know. I do zone out constantly when people are talking, but do a decent job of covering that up and catching myself back up, and I've never been called out on it. I'm also balanced out by autism, so tend not to be affected by punctuality issues or forgetfulness, for example.

BertieBotts · 13/01/2023 15:01

I'm always out of step with what people see as a normal thing to want to talk about - I don't really follow what's popular, I just do stuff I like. Which is always different from what most people like. I don't get pop culture references and people use these as a bonding thing a lot so I'm left out.

I am terrible for interrupting people. I just get excited and think I'll forget what I want to add/can't focus on the rest of the person's sentence because of the effort of remembering what I want to say. I like it when I find a friend who is happy for us both to talk over each other and we both have the skill of being able to hear the other's conversation while imparting our own. A lot of people can't do that, and find this annoying/rude.

I am not very good at the rules of conversation. I notice sometimes that people are getting bored and realise I've gone into way too much detail/too long on the same topic. I also return to topics once the subject has been changed, which you're not supposed to do, but I do this because I'm constantly getting distracted and I think it's an overcorrection.

My mind makes random jumps and people can't follow where I've gone to (unless they are also neurodivergent!)

I overshare. I also do that thing of recounting my own experience which in my head communicates that I totally understand what you're going through, because I went through something similar - this can apparently come across as self centred/merailing.

I have no sense of how long it's been since I last saw/spoke to/spent time with somebody so I will ignore them for months and then want to pick things up like it was last week. This works with some people and not at all with others. Many people will be suspicious and see this as "X only contacts me when they want something"

I struggle to initiate contact because of the before mentioned problem and because I forget people exist and I worry I am bothering people. I do best with group chats or something like a FB group for RL people or a regular meet up. I do not do well contacting people individually and arranging meet ups. This is too much executive functioning.

Also emotional instability in the form of rejection sensitivity (some online call this RSD) so I constantly worry I have upset someone or think I'm not really welcome. I'm a bit of a flake. I talk myself out of doing things. Then I realise I have a reputation for always cancelling at the last minute and I curse myself.

I am late for everything. I probably won't retain a friend very long if they are bothered by lateness.

I struggle with the "rules" for appearance and personal hygiene, so I'll go out with greasy hair or I'll forget to wear deodorant or I won't notice that my jumper has food down it. (Being clumsy doesn't help) This gives an impression to many people that there's something wrong with me. I rarely brush my hair. I have no clue about fashion. Sometimes I look at people and feel incredible awe that they have done so much to their appearance and they probably do that every day. I think I'll never have a professional job because of this and that makes me feel depressed.

I struggle with physically leaving the house sometimes for about 90% of the year because of sensory difficulties with temperature, brightness and wind. I just kind of have to get over this, but it tends to mean I don't go out and about just for the sake of it, I go places because I have to or because of a commitment. I also can't drive because of ADHD so I have to take public transport everywhere and this adds to the sensory overwhelm (temperature again, noise, motion sickness, time spent in my own head) which means I get really tired after doing one thing in a day, so I can't be a social butterfly flitting from one engagement to the next. I would love to be that person.

I go into a weird zone-out zombie state when I'm on my own (including in public, on a bus or something), particularly when I am tired (side note: do other people???) and it can be hard to transition from that into normal, charming, conversational - I'm sure this makes people think I'm weird or makes me come across like I'm stoned (I don't use any drugs) and is offputting.

I really like answering questions and knowing the answer. If somebody tells a joke or is humorously wondering about something, I can't help myself but answer it as though it is serious and this annoys people. If I know the answer to something somebody is wondering about, I have to tell them, it's like a compulsion. even if they are a complete stranger. People find this embarrassing. If I'm doing this online I often write a huge entire wall of text (LOL like this post) and/or I will have done an hour of google research and sometimes people don't want this level of response because it's overwhelming, annoying, confusing, patronising or whatever. Sometimes it gets a great, happy response and that's probably why I keep doing it...

I'm shit at social conventions and don't know when to leave, when it's appropriate to offer/ask for favours or offer/ask for payment, I don't know how many repetitions of the "polite refusal game" is reasonable and I'm certain I've offended people by doing the inappropriate thing in these situations and they have been too polite to say. Reading up about the conventions doesn't help because I don't remember and also everyone has a different opinion anyway, I think actually, there aren't rigid rules and instead, most neurotypical people are judging whether this kind of thing is appropriate by paying attention to small social cues and these are completely invisible to me, so I have no idea. Also most people apparently keep a mental tally of favours that they have received and try to pay them back at the same rate, which boggles my mind because HOW?? I have also realised that sometimes I assume something is the preferred option when it's not. E.g. I find it easier if people come to me because I find leaving the house stressful, but often people prefer not to host because they don't want to provide food or clean etc.

takemebacktothe1990s · 14/01/2023 00:57

Hi OP.

I have Combined ADHD but mainly inattentive traits. My social difficulties include;

  • Becoming bored in a conversation, even 1-1.
  • Looking around the room for something interesting. Over my friend's shoulder, or sneaking glances at the TV.
  • Completely losing my train of thought right in the middle of my sentence.
  • Having little recollection of a certain event from the past, so I end up feeling quite left out in group situations if everyone is talking about it.
  • Daydreaming then coming"back round " and not knowing what the conversation is about. Can be embarrassing and makes me feel "stupid".
  • Forgetting about plans, meaning I'm letting people down.
  • Time blindness... I end up late leaving the house and letting people down.

Likely lots of other examples tbh. I've lost friends over some of the above, and trust from some of the friends that remain Sad

BigMadAdrian · 14/01/2023 10:52

BertieBotts · 13/01/2023 15:01

I'm always out of step with what people see as a normal thing to want to talk about - I don't really follow what's popular, I just do stuff I like. Which is always different from what most people like. I don't get pop culture references and people use these as a bonding thing a lot so I'm left out.

I am terrible for interrupting people. I just get excited and think I'll forget what I want to add/can't focus on the rest of the person's sentence because of the effort of remembering what I want to say. I like it when I find a friend who is happy for us both to talk over each other and we both have the skill of being able to hear the other's conversation while imparting our own. A lot of people can't do that, and find this annoying/rude.

I am not very good at the rules of conversation. I notice sometimes that people are getting bored and realise I've gone into way too much detail/too long on the same topic. I also return to topics once the subject has been changed, which you're not supposed to do, but I do this because I'm constantly getting distracted and I think it's an overcorrection.

My mind makes random jumps and people can't follow where I've gone to (unless they are also neurodivergent!)

I overshare. I also do that thing of recounting my own experience which in my head communicates that I totally understand what you're going through, because I went through something similar - this can apparently come across as self centred/merailing.

I have no sense of how long it's been since I last saw/spoke to/spent time with somebody so I will ignore them for months and then want to pick things up like it was last week. This works with some people and not at all with others. Many people will be suspicious and see this as "X only contacts me when they want something"

I struggle to initiate contact because of the before mentioned problem and because I forget people exist and I worry I am bothering people. I do best with group chats or something like a FB group for RL people or a regular meet up. I do not do well contacting people individually and arranging meet ups. This is too much executive functioning.

Also emotional instability in the form of rejection sensitivity (some online call this RSD) so I constantly worry I have upset someone or think I'm not really welcome. I'm a bit of a flake. I talk myself out of doing things. Then I realise I have a reputation for always cancelling at the last minute and I curse myself.

I am late for everything. I probably won't retain a friend very long if they are bothered by lateness.

I struggle with the "rules" for appearance and personal hygiene, so I'll go out with greasy hair or I'll forget to wear deodorant or I won't notice that my jumper has food down it. (Being clumsy doesn't help) This gives an impression to many people that there's something wrong with me. I rarely brush my hair. I have no clue about fashion. Sometimes I look at people and feel incredible awe that they have done so much to their appearance and they probably do that every day. I think I'll never have a professional job because of this and that makes me feel depressed.

I struggle with physically leaving the house sometimes for about 90% of the year because of sensory difficulties with temperature, brightness and wind. I just kind of have to get over this, but it tends to mean I don't go out and about just for the sake of it, I go places because I have to or because of a commitment. I also can't drive because of ADHD so I have to take public transport everywhere and this adds to the sensory overwhelm (temperature again, noise, motion sickness, time spent in my own head) which means I get really tired after doing one thing in a day, so I can't be a social butterfly flitting from one engagement to the next. I would love to be that person.

I go into a weird zone-out zombie state when I'm on my own (including in public, on a bus or something), particularly when I am tired (side note: do other people???) and it can be hard to transition from that into normal, charming, conversational - I'm sure this makes people think I'm weird or makes me come across like I'm stoned (I don't use any drugs) and is offputting.

I really like answering questions and knowing the answer. If somebody tells a joke or is humorously wondering about something, I can't help myself but answer it as though it is serious and this annoys people. If I know the answer to something somebody is wondering about, I have to tell them, it's like a compulsion. even if they are a complete stranger. People find this embarrassing. If I'm doing this online I often write a huge entire wall of text (LOL like this post) and/or I will have done an hour of google research and sometimes people don't want this level of response because it's overwhelming, annoying, confusing, patronising or whatever. Sometimes it gets a great, happy response and that's probably why I keep doing it...

I'm shit at social conventions and don't know when to leave, when it's appropriate to offer/ask for favours or offer/ask for payment, I don't know how many repetitions of the "polite refusal game" is reasonable and I'm certain I've offended people by doing the inappropriate thing in these situations and they have been too polite to say. Reading up about the conventions doesn't help because I don't remember and also everyone has a different opinion anyway, I think actually, there aren't rigid rules and instead, most neurotypical people are judging whether this kind of thing is appropriate by paying attention to small social cues and these are completely invisible to me, so I have no idea. Also most people apparently keep a mental tally of favours that they have received and try to pay them back at the same rate, which boggles my mind because HOW?? I have also realised that sometimes I assume something is the preferred option when it's not. E.g. I find it easier if people come to me because I find leaving the house stressful, but often people prefer not to host because they don't want to provide food or clean etc.

I am (finally) booked in to be assessed and was starting to question whether I was making it all up, but OMG this is me.

Do you take meds? Do they help?

BigMadAdrian · 14/01/2023 11:04

I resonate with lots of what has been written by other posters - I would add:

Walking off - this could be for different reasons, some attentive and some hyperactive - boredom, distraction, restlessness, suddenly noticing something and wanting to look at it more closely, suddenly feeling overwhelmed.

I get extremely distracted by my own reflection, so have to make sure I can't see myself in a window/mirror if I'm speaking to someone.

Random subject changes when I thought comes in - I know I do it and often apologise first, but still continue - I can't help it.

I often realise too late that I've 'done it again' and respond by getting embarrassed and laughing (very loudly - apparently have a very distinctive laugh...) and then going quiet and squirmy.

Crap at eye contact (possibly have ASD too).

I think I get lots of dopamine from social interactions, so can outstay my welcome and get a bit wired - have random ideas of something we should do. I am always exhausted the next day too.

Hugely competitive.

I think quite a few of these are hyperactive.

tappinginto2023 · 15/01/2023 14:03

Similar to above.

My main ones are:

Zoning out when someone is speaking

Never remembering details of other people's lives, like what the name of their husband is etc. also time blind regarding their lives, eg get completely shocked when people mention the age of their children even though we talk about them all the time, because I remember peoples children when they are young, and I forget we are all getting older!

Interrupting/cutting people off (but a lot of people do this to me too! Grin)

I love my friends, but I get exhausted by social interactions and so I haven't got any real close friendships as I find them too suffocating. I like a lot of alone time. I even find my lovely pets (cat & pet) too needy!

Massively rejection sensitive.

Dominating in conversations because I get a bit hyper around other people.

I am charming and funny and clever and capable and the select people who I have told I have ADD don't believe me and tell me I'm wrong/the Dr is wrong. So even though I'm a massive over sharer I try and keep this to myself.

BertieBotts · 16/01/2023 13:07

Sorry I don't know why this didn't show up in Threads I'm On?

I can't find anybody to prescribe me medication sadly so not sure if it helps.

adhdpi2 · 18/01/2023 10:17

I have a lack of "social presence". Like the natural gravitas and energy that makes people pay attention to what you're saying.

For example, I can say one thing and be ignored, and another person says the same thing and everyone is agreeing with them. Even with close friends/family, everyone quickly and politely acknowledges what I'm saying, but moves on quickly and enthusiastically to something else.

Also massively rejection sensitive so I anxiously try to be noticed and am thus even further ignored. Even when I get hyper/loud it's just kind of a background disturbance.

Some magnetic and charming people naturally dominate conversations. Others not-so-naturally dominate conversations, like blaring loudly over everyone else. But no matter how loudly I drone, I'd never be able to naturally or unnaturally dominate a conversation lol.

It's not just timing (when to interject), although that is one aspect of it. It's down to energy/vibes/charisma (for lack of better words). Coffee and meds (separately) help, but I wish I wasn't always on the social outskirts

adhdpi2 · 18/01/2023 10:27

Read the above comments and I seem to have the opposite problem... I don't really interrupt or drone on. (That said, if you have a less charismatic and pleasant way of talking, you're a bit more likely to be perceived as interrupting or droning!) My problem is speaking up and being heard.

I always thought this was about an inattentive vs hyperactive ADHD divide but upon reading the above, perhaps not.

Oposter · 11/02/2023 22:55

Hi everyone,

I have recently been considering if I am autistic, but do not have some of the more common traits but the more I’ve looked into inattentive ADHD the more it sounds like it fits me. My son has always had comments from each school year about his concentration levels but nothing has ever come of it, apart from telling us he needs to stop day dreaming in class and pay attention more. This has made me think about it more.

I struggle to follow conversations and I’m often trying to process what the first few sentences and then miss the rest of what the person says. There have been some occasions when they have said something that I thought was a joke as they laugh and I usually follow their facial expressions and laugh with them not following what has been said. But after actually processing it, it wasn’t something I should have laughed along with. ( something like they have put themselves down about something and I should have reassured them).

I also struggle at work when I have to take details from a phone call. I struggle to remember what has been said. Using my notepad to write everything down is the only way to help with this.

Im definitely messy, unorganised and make careless mistakes at work which then feel really anxious about and beat myself with it time and time again. With regards to time keeping I usually overcompensate and end up at places 20-30mins early as I’m worried about being late.

Most people see me as being a nice quiet person but I struggle to make further connections with colleagues. Struggle with making eye contact. During social situations, I often dig my nails into the back of my hands nervously.

Sorry for my long post. It’s been good to get some of it down and wondered if It might be worth me exploring this?

Thanks

Daftasabroom · 12/02/2023 14:24

IHRTFT

Seriously. I just switch off.

Goldandpurplezebra · 12/02/2023 14:29

Daftasabroom · 12/02/2023 14:24

IHRTFT

Seriously. I just switch off.

What is IHRTFT?

Daftasabroom · 12/02/2023 15:10

@Goldandpurplezebra I haven't read the full thread

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