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An ableism on MN rant

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Scautish · 13/07/2022 19:50

a lot of us don’t take responsibility for our children

no-one wants to be married to us

you don’t have a sex life with an Aspie

all statements made today on MN

i despair at the prejudice we and our children face.

why do MN continually support this hatred and ignorance?

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Clarice99 · 13/07/2022 20:01

This wouldn't be allowed if it were about race. But autism is seen as fair game for abuse, with MNHQ as the enablers.

I didn't see the thread/comments you quoted from today OP and I'm sorry that you had to read that shit as it's sickening and hurtful.

autumnlover60 · 13/07/2022 21:01

@Scautish I read one of those threads aswell and found it very upsetting. I already find the ableism upsetting in my day to day life, there isn't even an escape from it online. Sorry you also had to read those threads ❤

Scautish · 13/07/2022 21:21

Thank you both. It’s so sad that this is what our kids face. Nasty spiteful people no doubt teaching their kids to grow in nasty spiteful adults.

but maybe things improve generation by generation?

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AffIt · 13/07/2022 22:11

Did you read the one about 'autism isn't a superpower'?

Fuck me, that was an absolute binfire of ableism.

Scautish · 13/07/2022 22:32

I didn’t see it. I avoid those kind of threads as I hate the autism is a superpower thing. It’s patronising and not true. It is a difference and sometimes (lots of the time) it makes it very hard to fit in and the world becomes even more stressful. And other times, when you get to be yourself without having to worry what others think (usually by yourself) you can think about amazing things in a way that others may not see things. But it’s not a superpower.

I also don’t like these threads because there are always mothers of autistic children who have severe learning difficulties who insist on describing autistic adults who don’t have learning difficulties as having mild autism and how we try to define autism for everyone and speak on behalf of every autistic person. This is utter bollocks but they refuse to listen.

I really object to neurotypical people insisting in defining MY autism.

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TirednExhausted · 14/07/2022 13:59

It's exhausting and I'm spending less and less time on here. But very much reflects a large portion of societies view, which is lovely 😑😞 (if I won the lottory this Friday im going to buy a deserted island, no more people 😂) mnhq needs to moderate it better really and ban them, I tend to see the same usernames spewing hate on the autism dog whistle threads.

AshGirl · 14/07/2022 16:36

I also found some comments on the thread about allowing squash in primary schools very upsetting. Lots of people claiming there was no possible reason why a child might struggle to drink plain water and claiming it was all lazy parenting. Totally ignoring the many measures posts from ND parents and / or parents of SEND children explaining why this might be.

I wanted to report the most outrageous posts but worried I was being too sensitive Sad

Clarice99 · 14/07/2022 16:53

I wanted to report the most outrageous posts but worried I was being too sensitive

@AshGirl

Please don't waste your energy worrying and report away!

I agree with @TirednExhausted , the site should be moderated.

Suddha · 15/07/2022 01:23

I also don’t like these threads because there are always mothers of autistic children who have severe learning difficulties who insist on describing autistic adults who don’t have learning difficulties as having mild autism

I’m what’s called “high functioning”. My autism is “mild”. I don’t like those phrases because they fail to recognise the seriousness of my problems. My issues are simply different to the issues of people who are classed as low functioning.

True, I’m not nonverbal and I don’t have learning difficulties. But I do have to navigate the world on my own in a way that a person with “severe” autism wouldn’t be expected to. I’m not classed as a vulnerable adult and I’m not treated as such. I can’t claim benefits to support myself without having to work. I can’t access any kind of care or help. I have to look after kids and hold down a job, cook and do housework, manage my calendar and regular tasks such as taking medication - things which a person with “severe” autism wouldn’t be expected to do. NT men are attracted to me and have physically and sexually abused me in a way that they probably wouldn’t have attempted to do if I was nonverbal or clearly had learning difficulties. People treat me as a normal person who’s just weird and horrible; they don’t make allowances like they would if I was obviously disabled.

My autism may be “mild” but in a way that’s harder because I’m expected to cope and mask and live a normal life with no support. The struggles I have on a daily basis are not “mild”.

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 15/07/2022 23:51

NT men are attracted to me and have physically and sexually abused me in a way that they probably wouldn’t have attempted to do if I was nonverbal or clearly had learning difficulties.

Sadly, I wouldn't bank on it. I guess the techniques would be different.

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