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NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/04/2017 23:21

I thought we could have a thread to chat about playing! I play the piano (not as badly as I fear but not as well as I hope) and have recently tried my hand at chamber music. Would love to hear what other people are doing.

CoteDAzur Here's a picture of the instruments they used in Rameau's Dardanus.

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Broken11Girl · 06/11/2017 19:53

That sounds really difficult Never, impressed Shock Smile

NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/11/2017 19:53
! I'm going to say goodbye to Rameau for a while. I've got some Schubert lieders to murder. Grin
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NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/11/2017 19:54

Sorry about the angle. I blame the French dictionary.

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CoteDAzur · 06/11/2017 20:26

Well done, Never Smile Now you'll just have to keep playing it all every day, because it feels so damn good. Or that might be just me

NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/11/2017 20:55

I have a few other things I want to play. One of them is Gretchen am Spinnrade. Complete witchcraft.

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CoteDAzur · 06/11/2017 21:59
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NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/11/2017 22:11

No, the original, not the mad Liszt transcription.

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Broken11Girl · 06/11/2017 22:21

My cat just shot off my lap at the high note in that Never, and is sitting across the room glaring at me Grin

Broken11Girl · 06/11/2017 22:32

Felt fed up earlier, had a headache, played a Bach little prelude FAST AND LOUD. Therapeutic. It's getting there, as is the Czerny.
Clarinet is resting today as my bottom lip hurt. My attempts at high notes are also more than my head could take. Moved up to a 3 reed which is helping.
I'm getting a music stand on payday, which will also be doubling as a tablet stand so will be adding some videos soon.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/11/2017 22:54

Grin at Broken's cat.

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Mistigri · 07/11/2017 07:50

Interesting how many of us enjoy playing Bach and other classical era composers.

My teen hates Bach with a passion ;) and when forced to play inventions she is always tempted to add a bit of pedal and legato.

My teacher has got me into Scarlatti, great fun, and much easier musically than Bach. I find the sonatas about twice as quick to learn as a Bach piece of a similar technical standard.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/11/2017 08:35

When I was a teen I loved Bach. I thought it was easy. A line here, a line there, and you can just see how it goes. DS1 agrees with me. Not that we can play all that well, but you understand the music. (But then I didn't play the partitas ...)

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CoteDAzur · 07/11/2017 10:31

“Interesting how many of us enjoy playing Bach and other classical era composers.”

Well technically, Bach is Baroque era not Classical which would be Mozart etc Smile

I love playing Baroque music because of its complex counterpoint and enjoy Classical pieces less. Especially Bach’s stuff is so beautifully complex that it feels intellectual. You don’t know where the music is going even if it’s based on permutations, and then when you do, it feels inevitable. Most of Mozart sounds like elevator music to me.

One of the advantages of being a student of the harpsichord is that I don’t have to practive anything other than Baroque music, as that is the keyboard instrument it was written for Smile

Babieseverywhere · 07/11/2017 14:55

I noticed this thread is very active. Just wanted to ask is there a suitable place in 'Music' where I can ask very basic music questions ?

NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/11/2017 16:10

Hello Babies! Ask here!

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Babieseverywhere · 07/11/2017 16:22

Ace :)

If the music has a F sharp at the start does that apply to all the F's regardless of which octive the F is in ? Logically it should but I just want to check.

If the music has a B flat at the start, then later on there is a bar with a natural B and a second B. Is the second B still naturalized as it is in the same bar as the first one or is it a B flat ?

NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/11/2017 16:29

What do you mean by "at the start"? (Always answer a question by a question!)

If you mean key signature (written after the clef on every stave) then they apply to every F regardless of which octave unless cancelled by an accidental.

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/11/2017 16:33

Within a bar the key signature applies, unless there's an accidental. So in your case if the key signature has a B flat then all the Bs are flats. But if within a bar there is a B with a natural sign then all the Bs at the same pitch after the natural sign are natural. ( Unless there's another sign ...) But other Bs at different octaves are not natural.

Accidentals only apply locally, so to speak - only the bar and only that specific note (and the same note thereafter, within the bar). Key signatures apply globally.

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/11/2017 16:33

Not sure if that makes sense...

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CoteDAzur · 07/11/2017 16:44

Never - Don’t forget to start the next thread! This one is nearly full.

Babieseverywhere · 07/11/2017 16:45

That makes sense.

So impressed my vague questions have answers... Thank you

CoteDAzur · 07/11/2017 16:58

Yes, it’s important to know what you mean by “at the start”. If you mean the sharp/flat signs on the actual lines at the very beginning (before even the 1st note) then yes, that applies to the entire music.

If you mean one of the first notes on the sheet had a flat or sharp written next to it, then it only applies to the few notes in that bar.

Same with natural notes. If there is a sharp sign on the F line at the very beginning, before notes even start, then all Fs are F Sharp. Except an F marked natural and any other F that might be in the same bar with it.

CoteDAzur · 07/11/2017 17:04

New thread is here.

Sorry Never, I panicked & jumped the gun. Didn’t want this thread to reach 1,000 posts without a link to the next episode.

I’m very impressed that we reached 1000 posts in ) months Smile

Babieseverywhere · 07/11/2017 17:17

Yes, they were key signatures. I last had lessons 30 years ago and I can't remember some things...I have patchy knowledge.

Maybe I should get a theory book and start from the beginning. I am trying to play some music from Jane Austin's Sense and sensibility that I like called Fathers Fabourite. But I knew a few bars didn't sound right even at my slow pace, lol.

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